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    Lightbulb When does a firetruck...not look like a firetruck?

    Tricked-out firetruck an attempt to lure volunteers
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    By LISA SCHENCKER
    Scranton Times
    CHILDS, Pa. (AP) - With volunteerism down across the state, one
    rural fire company is trying a new tack to rev up recruitment - a
    firetruck that doesn't look like a firetruck.
    The new Whites Crossing Volunteer Fire and Rescue Company's
    $260,000 firetruck isn't red or yellow; it's white. Blue and red
    flames and stars and stripes cover its hood. A picture of Yosemite
    Sam wielding a chain saw with the logo "'Relax' We got it!"
    adorns the back.
    It wouldn't exactly fit in a Norman Rockwell painting, and it's
    not what company charter member Bernard Fedor remembers about
    firefighting 40 years ago.
    "With the paint job on it, it should be more or less in a
    rodeo," Fedor said, standing on his back porch down the road from
    the new engine Tuesday. "But if they're happy with it, and it will
    continue (the company), I'm all for it."
    Company members are hoping the new truck will do just that.
    They're hoping it will attract new members in a way that
    traditional high school recruitment days and word-of-mouth no
    longer are.
    Capt. Tim MacDonald said it's simply a creative way of dealing
    with a statewide problem. Lack of volunteers is a serious concern
    throughout Pennsylvania considering about 95 percent of the state
    is covered by volunteers, said state Fire Commissioner Ed Mann.
    That's compared with about 75 percent nationwide, he said.
    And less volunteers means more stress for those who stick with
    it.
    In the 1970s, Pennsylvania's volunteer firefighters numbered
    nearly 300,000. Now, Mann said, that figure hovers closer to
    70,000.
    Mann said people are simply living busier lives these days.
    Young people also tend to leave the area for better jobs and
    opportunities after high school.
    Whites Crossing, like most other volunteer companies, has not
    been immune to the changing times.
    The truck's bold paint job is just the company's latest attempt
    to boost its membership, which now stands at 20 on the cusp of the
    company's 40th anniversary, MacDonald said.
    That's a low number for a company that boasted more than 50
    members 30 years ago.
    "We have to continue to bring in young, viable members if this
    place is to survive," MacDonald said.
    Though the truck appeals to younger people, MacDonald said the
    company is always looking for all sorts of volunteers. Of the 20
    current volunteers, only about eight to 10 actually fight fires.
    The others are administrative members who handle paperwork and
    fundraising.
    "They don't have to be rushing into a burning building to
    contribute something positive," MacDonald said.
    Administrative members will be especially essential in helping
    the company raise money to pay for the unique truck. The company
    paid for the truck with a $225,000 Department of Homeland Security
    grant but is still working to raise the other $35,000 on its own.
    The company is already planning fundraisers to earn the money,
    which company Assistant Chief Jay Aileo said he estimates will take
    at least two years.
    The red, white and blue truck is the company's first new one in
    31 years, and will replace a truck that company members said is all
    but gasping its last breath. It's missing several seat belts and
    can't store foam used to fight fires.
    The new truck will be safer for firefighters, carry foam and
    have the ability to shoot water from a gun atop the fire truck.
    MacDonald said the new truck was sorely needed, and the colorful
    images on its exterior were simply a plus, an innovative attempt to
    attract volunteers.
    "It's a problem everywhere," MacDonald said of the lack of
    volunteer firefighters. "Everyone takes it for granted, like it's
    just something provided by taxes. It's not like that around here."


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    What, no picture?

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    A picture of Yosemite Sam wielding a chain saw with the logo "'Relax' We got it!" adorns the back.
    Are they looking for FF's or Whackers?
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    I too would like to see a picture, Yosimite Sam is my favorite brata frakin no good gosh darn rootin tootin cartoon character.

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    Default picture of the truck

    Here is the link that has the picture.



    http://www.4guysfire.com/whitescrossing.asp

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    For the most part it looks pretty good except the crap on the hood and the Yosemite Sam on the back. It seems like someone spent some time customizing the options instead of getting a cookie cutter rig.
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    you know, that's a really nice looking truck. And it's no worse than some of the other trucks I've seen. A patriotic hood design, and a logo and moto on the back. not bad at all

    I hope they use it well
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    Hey if it actually helps them retain manpower, more power to them. I've seen uglier rigs.

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    When its any color other then RED
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    When its any color other then RED
    I guess Harve doesn't ride fire trucks then. What about this?

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    Originally posted by Dave1983
    When its any color other then RED
    Watch that...

    http://www.yorktownfire.org/station1/station1.htm


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    If you have ever traveled across the country and looked at fire engines you have to know that red isn't all there is. It may be the majority if you total all fire apparatus ever made, but it surely isn't all there is. We have mostly black over red and keep that paint theme because the firefighters want it. When something that simple can help keep your volunteers happy and make them feel a sense of pride and ownership why not do it?

    I hope that the White Crossing engine does help retain and recruit volunteers. To me it shows a sense of pride in their new rig. Maybe a bit showy for some but I like it. Honestly, in this day and age it has become almost imperative to do more to attract people to the volunteer service. If this draws them in and they join and become active mebers where is the harm? I don't find this to be a wacker move at all.

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    I see absolutely nothing wrong with the patriotic paint scheme and sam on the back. It's called being patriotic and creative. It has nothing to do with whackers or mis-placed priorities. It is something unique and creative that people will see and remember. To the people that see it go by, it is something that will catch their eye and something they will remember as being "They awsome firetruck".
    Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.

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    Thumbs up Looks good.

    Might could do without Yosemite (although he is one of my favorite), but the rest looks good to me. I like the red/white/blue scheme. That's not whacker, it is just not normal.
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    Originally posted by Murph64


    Watch that...

    http://www.yorktownfire.org/station1/station1.htm


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    Originally posted by SPIPER


    Park them things out on the apron and let em ripen!


    [DonAdams]Would you believe [/DonAdams] our new rigs are red, so there is a lot of truth to this statement. It's also a running joke...

    Although the green has grown (or is that groan??) on me, when Rescue 16 is up for replacement I'm going to reccomend to keep it this color.

    One of the companies at my old dept (Port Chester NY) got a new Pierce in red and black. Evryone down there says it looks like a Boar's Head truck.


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    Having seen the picture (thanks for that link) it does not look anywhere near as bad as what the description made it to be.
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    Yeah I was expecting something incredibly tacky, based on the text in the article.

    I think it looks great.
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    [DonAdams]Would you believe [/DonAdams] our new rigs are red, so there is a lot of truth to this statement. It's also a running joke...
    Well in the old days, there was only red, then came green, then white, black, orange, blue, teal... i swear there has to be enough FD's with a different color truck so that there are trucks of every color of the rainbow.

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    As several have mentioned, the cities (FDNY for example) have been putting similar themes on thier halls and truck for years. I don't think it is the best theme or motto, but I think the truck looks OK.

    I don't know if this is the best recruiting tool, but to each thier own.
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    well I will say the truck has some "style"..........I think the hood is a little busy, but if it will help them in recruitment....small price to pay for sure.
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    Originally posted by mcaldwell
    As several have mentioned, the cities (FDNY for example) have been putting similar themes on thier halls and truck for years. I don't think it is the best theme or motto, but I think the truck looks OK.

    I don't know if this is the best recruiting tool, but to each thier own.
    Thats because all FDNY FFs are hardcore Whackers...

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    I think it looks kinda cool....... Just a lil different..... Good luck to them with recruitment!!
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    Originally posted by Bones42
    Are they looking for FF's or Whackers?

    I rather have wackers putting out the fire thats burning down my house than have no one because there aren't enough volunteers.

    The truck looks alot better than the article made it out to be. As for the cartoon...alot of FD's have them, so it's not that bad.
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