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    Default Two wheels fly off firetruck!

    Man, these poor guys and this truck. They just put it back into service a few days ago after it's been out due to stress cracks in the ladder and bucket.

    Firetruck Tire Rams Shop
    Reason two tires came off East Syracuse department's truck a mystery, police say.

    Thursday, June 02, 2005
    By Jim McKeever
    Staff writer

    A DeWitt muffler and brake shop got an unexpected drive-through customer Wednesday.

    A 200-pound tire came loose from an East Syracuse firetruck, rolled about 1,000 feet down Erie Boulevard East and crashed through a window at Monro Muffler Brake.

    No one was injured in the 7:20 a.m. accident. The shop at 3711 Erie Blvd. E. was able to open on time 10 minutes later.

    "It was very strange," said Sean Lucas, Monro manager. "We had one of the technicians waiting in the driveway who saw the whole thing. It came close to his car, maybe a foot away."

    After the tire crashed through the 78-by-91-inch window of a conference room, it smashed three tables and a couple of chairs, and it tipped over Lucas' coffee maker.

    The East Syracuse Fire Department's two-year-old Truck 1 was on the way to assist the DeWitt Fire Department on a possible dryer fire. As the truck passed Grenfell Road near DeWitt Community Church, driver Rob Quonce felt the truck start to vibrate, DeWitt police reported.

    Both right rear tires came off the axle and began rolling in different directions.

    One tire struck a "Do Not Enter" sign and ended up brushing against a law office before coming to rest. The other bounced and rolled down a grade and across the median and crashed into the muffler shop.

    "No other vehicles were struck and there were no injuries," said DeWitt police Capt. Mark Petterelli. "It's certainly fortunate in that aspect."

    East Syracuse fire Chief Joe McAllister said the truck, the department's newest, is out of service until it can be repaired. The truck sustained some body damage, and the extent of axle damage isn't known. The truck was able to be driven back to the station on two replacement tires, McAllister said.

    The village bought the truck in September 2003 for $798,000, its records show.

    McAllister said he doesn't know why the tires came off, but he said the lug nuts collected after the accident appeared to have sheared off.

    "It's a mystery at this point," he said. There are no indications of foul play or tampering, he and Petterelli said.

    Truck 1, with its 95-foot platform, is the department's primary aerial apparatus, McAllister said. The department has nine other firefighting vehicles, including an 85-foot ladder truck it has since moved from Station 2 near Carrier Circle to Station 1 in the village to take the place of Truck 1.

    All firefighting vehicles receive annual state Department of Transportation inspections as well as a yearly preventive maintenance check, McAllister said. Truck 1 was due for an inspection later this month, he said.

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    Anybody know the make?
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    They just put it back into service a few days ago
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    Loose lugs mabye?

    According to the story, the lugs 'appeared to be sheared off'. It also said they were able to replace the wheels and drive it back but didn't mention if they replaced the studs. Hard to imagine lugs shearing and not ruining the studs...

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    It says 95', probably E-1.

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    Unhappy wheels off

    Gads, here we go again. Another potential hazard to the public as well as a potential threat to the firefighters because of what is up to now a mechanical problem of unkown cause. Once a year State Inspections and once a year vehicle inspections? Holly rolling wheels Batman, what happened to regular preventive maintenance on at least a quarterly basis? Has the unit been weighed to see if it is properly axled? Are the wheels steel. aluminum or a steel and aluminum mix? Who is doing the work on this vehicle, the local muffler shop? We just don't need more of the good guys and the public they protect to fall victim to vehicles with faulty design, maintenance or other problems caused by whomever or whatever. Keep it safe.

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    Originally posted by oldman21220
    It says 95', probably E-1.
    That was my first thought, but Pierce also has a 95' mid-mount.
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    Default Hmmmmm

    Photo of the truck when it was brand new

    http://www.signal99.com/esfd/esfdplatform.gif

    Something to mention also, the apparatus driver was a very experienced driver. He obviously did an excellent job keeping this thing under control. Could have been much worse.
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    Yeah so just to clarify, it's a Pierce.
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    Rear Steer???

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    Thank God they had another rear axle to help manage that ride. Sheesh.

    On a lighter note, to make matters worse:

    One tire struck a "Do Not Enter" sign and ended up brushing against a law office before coming to rest.
    You know that this will not end well. Probably get sued for psychological injuries to the staff.
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    Originally posted by Resq14
    Yeah so just to clarify, it's a Pierce.
    Thats all Pierce needs, more bad pub.
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    I used to drive semi's when i was in the british army and continued driving them for a while after I left. We were always made to visually inspect all the lug nuts at least once a day to make sure they are secure (you can usually tell if one is getting loose)also they had to be torque tightened every week to make sure they were secure. If a wheel does come off and hits a car it will most likeky kill someone

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