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    Post 'Fire-Safe' Cigarettes

    I'm particularly interested in hearing from New York and Canadian firefighters. The linked article is about a proposed bill that would require all U.S. states to sell only fire-safe cigarettes. There's mention of similar laws in New York and Canada, which went into effect last year. According to the article, studies are underway into the affects these laws have had on the number of cigarette-related fires in NY and Canada. However, there's no mention of any conclusive official findings. (P.S. I'm a Firehouse.com writer and am working on a story about the cigarettes. Any help would be much appreciated.)
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    For some reason, the link is coming up blank. If you go to today's news, the story's up.

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    It's hard to judge something so new, especially with folks still buying cigarettes from other states.

    Here's the bill (HR 1850 if the link doesn't work):

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/.../~c109D3Qafv::

    The Suffolk County (NY) Fire Marshal's office did a "test":

    On January 10, 2005 Fire Marshalís from the Suffolk County Dept. of Fire Rescue and Emergency Service along with Scott Cohn, Senior Correspondent and his production staff, from CNBC conducted a non-scientific test of NYS approved self extinguishing cigarette and an ordinary cigarette. Two identical brand name cigarettes (one NYS approved self extinguishing cigarette and another purchased in the State of Virginia) were brought in for the test. The test was conducted in the first floor northeast corner room of the class A burn building located at the Suffolk County Fire Training Academy. The room and structure were not air tight or sealed and remained open to ambient temperature and humidity. Weather for the day was approximately 50 degrees with a less then 5 mph wind out of the west. Humidity was not calculated although it had rained the prior day. The couch used was a single seat imitation leather over stuffed chair which appeared to be filled with foam rubber product and made of wood and cloth backing. The couch was approximately 30 to 40 years old and in good condition. It had been stored inside at room temperature and humidity until the test day.

    At approximately 10:28 hours on the above date both cigarettes were ignited and placed in the couch corners.

    The NYS approved self extinguishing cigarette was drop between the seat cushion and the arm rest at the back left side corner of the couch (as viewed in photographs). The ordinary cigarette was drop on the opposite side or between the seat cushion and the arm rest at the back right side corner of the couch (as viewed in photographs).

    At approximately 10:33 hours (5 minutes after ignition) on the above date the NYS approved self extinguishing cigarette showed no visible sign of smoke or further ignition. At the same time the ordinary cigarette showed continued signs of burning based on increased smoke production.

    At approximately 10:38 hours (10 minutes after ignition) Mr. Cohnís Producer reached in the left side and removed the NYS approved self extinguishing cigarette and confirmed it was no longer burning. At the same time the ordinary cigarette continued to show signs of burning based on intermittent smoke production.

    The ordinary cigarette continued to produce a steady stream of smoke for the next 2 hours until at approximately 12:00 the Fire Marshals present recommended that the CNBC crew record from outside due to heavy smoke and carbon monoxide building up with in the structure.

    At approximately 12:48 hours (2 hours and 20 minutes after ignition) visible flame appeared on the right side of the couch (where the ordinary cigarette was originally dropped). Within 10 minutes of visible flame the entire chair was consumed by fire.

    NOTE: At no time were any other heat or ignition sources place on or in close proximity to the couch. Nor were any accelerants introduced to increase the burn potential of the test couch. All the subject present can attest to the fact that what ignited this test fire and caused it to burn was one ordinary cigarette which was drop between the seat cushion at the back right side corner of the couch.

    If you want a copy of the report (which includes pictures), send me an e-mail or PM.

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    Very good point about people buying out-of-state cigarettes. I'm glad you mentioned that. That makes it more difficult to judge the affect of the state laws and, in a way, makes a nationwide law more compelling; the only way for a state to ensure only fire-safe cigarettes are used within their borders is to know that neighboring states aren't selling regular cigarettes.
    It's sort of like state bans on fireworks.
    Thanks for the link. Somewhere in our archives, we have a news story -- from Oregon, I think -- with a video of a cigarette burn test.

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