What size attack line does your department use - 1.5", 1.75" or 2" ?
Also where do you carry your primary attack lines - crosslay, hose bed or reels ?
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06-08-2005, 09:40 AM #1Forum Member
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Attack Lines
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06-08-2005, 09:43 AM #2
1.75" crosslay
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06-08-2005, 09:57 AM #3
I hope that no one other then brush units carry their primary attack lines on reels anymore!
Our Primary attacks are 200 and 300 foot 1.75 crosslays and 150 foot 1.75 trashline in the bumper with 200 foot 2.5 preconnected in the hose bed.
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06-08-2005, 10:12 AM #4
We have two 1.75" crosslays of 200' each on both engines.
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Ditto, plus 2 1/2 crosslay on main engine. 1 3/4 preconnect trashline on fron bumper on both engines also.We have two 1.75" crosslays of 200' each on both engines.
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06-08-2005, 10:18 AM #6
Depending on the appartus positioning, we have 2 1.75 crosslays, primary attack has a smoothbore nozzle, the backup up as a fog tip. If we're more than 200' from from the strucure we have 200' of 2.5 with a gate wye, and an additional 200' of 1.75.
This is in additional to the 200' of 2.5.Jim
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06-08-2005, 10:30 AM #7
Preconected Crosslays
(2) 200' 1.75" one coming off each side.
(1) 150' 2.5" with gated wye or smoothbore.
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(1) 150' 1.5" Foam/TrashlinePiscataway Fire Dist #2
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06-08-2005, 11:17 AM #8Forum Member
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Dennis ....
The department I was last one in Vermont did carry our primary attack lines on reels ... we carried 800' of 1.75" line on 2 Hannay reels (400' on each reel) mounted over the pump panel. We found it very handy in that we covered a wide variety of occupancies and road-to-fire situations which required different length stretches. We also used 1.75" for brush fires, as we did not carry any booster on the last 3 trucks we ordered, so the reels proved extremly useful for longer stretches into the woods/fields, as well as stretches on MVAS, where the engine would be positioned well away from the scene (often 300-400'). Rather than carrying a variety of pre-connects in multiple beds or extra hose in a flat lay, we simply deployed what we needed from the reels for each situation. We found that with practice, we could get a 1.75" off the reel and deployed just a fast as a pre-connect, and there was no chance of a tangled mess on the ground. We also did carry 2 200' 1.75" pre-connects in the rear hosebed for the "standard" situations. In addition, it made reloading a snap and could be quickly accomplished by 2 firefighters during the day when we were shorthanded. It also increased safety as firefighters no longer had to climb up on the bed to reload if the reels were used. Also the fact that we could put 800' of line on 2 reels saved quite a bit of space on the trucks. It's an interesting option which worked very well for us.
They have switched to 2" attack lines on the newest truck, delivered about 4 months ago.
The department I am currently on in Louisiana uses 1.5" inch attack lines in crosslays (200' each). The custom also carries a 150' trash/vehicle fire line in the front bumper.Last edited by LaFireEducator; 06-08-2005 at 03:26 PM.
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06-08-2005, 11:43 AM #9
Our quint carries a 2" crosslay and a 1.75" crosslay.
Our engine carries three 1.75" crosslays of varying length, a 2" crosslay, and a 2.5" preconnect off the back.
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06-08-2005, 12:24 PM #10
Dennis, those "reels" are coming more and more popular in Vermont, but with soft hose on them. It holds the hose, but it's not preconnected. You pull off however much you need, then connect it to a discharge.
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06-08-2005, 12:25 PM #11
for attack lines our pumpers carry 2 booster reels, 2 crosslays of 1-3/4" and a deuce and half.
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Try this monster
Cross lays:
1- 200 ft. of 2 1/2.
1- 150 ft. of 2 1/2.
1- 200 ft. of 1 3/4.
Rear load:
600 ft. of 2 1/2 with noz but not preconnected.
1,000 ft. of 5 inch.
Plus:
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06-08-2005, 01:32 PM #13MembersZone Subscriber
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On the Engine:
Two 1 3/4in. 200ft. crosslay preconnects
One 2in. 200ft. crosslay preconnect
One 2 1/2in. 300ft. hose bed preconnect
On the Quint:
Two 2in. crosslay peconnects
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06-08-2005, 05:20 PM #14
I would say the most used hose is 1 3/4", however we do not have a standard. Engines in Memphis have a standard compliment of (1) booster reel, (1) 1 3/4" front jumpline; (2) 1 3/4" crosslays; a reverse load of 2 1/2" hose wyed into (2) 1 3/4" lines; and 1066' of 5".
I did not mention specific lengths because they vary depending on territory. For example, I have a lot of apartments and therefore carry longer than standard lengths on my booster reel and both cross lays.
As stated, the 1 3/4" hose gets used the most, but I lay according to the situation. YOU CAN USE A BOOSTER REEL ON SMALL FIRES, NO MATTER WHERE THEY ARE!! THAT INCLUDES STRUCTURES!!Last edited by MemphisE34a; 06-13-2005 at 07:52 PM.
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06-08-2005, 08:06 PM #15
2 1.75" crosslays 200' in length
1 2.5" Pre-connect 400' in length
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06-08-2005, 08:40 PM #16
All have (2) 200' crosslays of 1.75"....... 2 of the trucks have (1) 200' 2.5" preconnect.......
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06-08-2005, 09:01 PM #17
one engine- 2 1.75" speedlays
1 1.75" trash line
1 2.5" BLitzline
Second engine- 2 1.75" rear discahrge preconnects
1 1.75" side discharge trash line
1 2.5" Blitzline smoothbore
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06-08-2005, 09:14 PM #18
attack lines...
Two 200 foot 1.75" in the crosslays with combo nozzles
One 300 foot 1.75" in the rear with a combo nozzle.
One 200 foot deuce and half with a 1 1/4" smoothbore.
supply lines...
800 feet of 3"
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06-08-2005, 09:18 PM #19Junior Member
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Our first-out Engine has:
Front Bumper:
1 - 100' 1.5" Trashline
1 - 75' 1.5" Trashline
Speedlays:
2 - 200' 1.5" w/TFT Automatics
1 - 300' 1.5" w/SB
Hosebed:
1 - 250' 1.75" w/TFT Automatic
1 - 250' 2.5" w/SB
Booster Reel:
1 - 200' 1" Booster
All flat-lay (except the booster, of course), no fancy hose packs.Lt. John Millili
DFD Battalion 3 - Cooper St. Station
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06-08-2005, 10:01 PM #20MembersZone Subscriber
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Compressed Air Foam System (CAFS)
Engine:
(1) 275' 1 1/2 solid bore
(1) 150' 1 3/4 fog nozzle
(1) 100' (ish) 1 3/4 for a dead lay
All Compressed Air Foam (CAFS) in the crosslays
400' 1 1/2 CAFS
300' 1 3/4 straight water no CAFS
400' deuce and half CAFS
1200' 4" supply
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(2) 150' 1 3/4 in the crosslays fog nozzles
(2) Deuce and half on 4" x 2 1/2" siamese
1600' 4" supplyLast edited by CorreeyW; 06-08-2005 at 10:05 PM.
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