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    What size attack line does your department use - 1.5", 1.75" or 2" ?
    Also where do you carry your primary attack lines - crosslay, hose bed or reels ?

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    1.75" crosslay
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    I hope that no one other then brush units carry their primary attack lines on reels anymore!

    Our Primary attacks are 200 and 300 foot 1.75 crosslays and 150 foot 1.75 trashline in the bumper with 200 foot 2.5 preconnected in the hose bed.
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    We have two 1.75" crosslays of 200' each on both engines.
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    We have two 1.75" crosslays of 200' each on both engines.
    Ditto, plus 2 1/2 crosslay on main engine. 1 3/4 preconnect trashline on fron bumper on both engines also.



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    Depending on the appartus positioning, we have 2 1.75 crosslays, primary attack has a smoothbore nozzle, the backup up as a fog tip. If we're more than 200' from from the strucure we have 200' of 2.5 with a gate wye, and an additional 200' of 1.75.

    This is in additional to the 200' of 2.5.
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    Preconected Crosslays
    (2) 200' 1.75" one coming off each side.
    (1) 150' 2.5" with gated wye or smoothbore.

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    Dennis ....

    The department I was last one in Vermont did carry our primary attack lines on reels ... we carried 800' of 1.75" line on 2 Hannay reels (400' on each reel) mounted over the pump panel. We found it very handy in that we covered a wide variety of occupancies and road-to-fire situations which required different length stretches. We also used 1.75" for brush fires, as we did not carry any booster on the last 3 trucks we ordered, so the reels proved extremly useful for longer stretches into the woods/fields, as well as stretches on MVAS, where the engine would be positioned well away from the scene (often 300-400'). Rather than carrying a variety of pre-connects in multiple beds or extra hose in a flat lay, we simply deployed what we needed from the reels for each situation. We found that with practice, we could get a 1.75" off the reel and deployed just a fast as a pre-connect, and there was no chance of a tangled mess on the ground. We also did carry 2 200' 1.75" pre-connects in the rear hosebed for the "standard" situations. In addition, it made reloading a snap and could be quickly accomplished by 2 firefighters during the day when we were shorthanded. It also increased safety as firefighters no longer had to climb up on the bed to reload if the reels were used. Also the fact that we could put 800' of line on 2 reels saved quite a bit of space on the trucks. It's an interesting option which worked very well for us.

    They have switched to 2" attack lines on the newest truck, delivered about 4 months ago.

    The department I am currently on in Louisiana uses 1.5" inch attack lines in crosslays (200' each). The custom also carries a 150' trash/vehicle fire line in the front bumper.
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    Our quint carries a 2" crosslay and a 1.75" crosslay.

    Our engine carries three 1.75" crosslays of varying length, a 2" crosslay, and a 2.5" preconnect off the back.

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    Dennis, those "reels" are coming more and more popular in Vermont, but with soft hose on them. It holds the hose, but it's not preconnected. You pull off however much you need, then connect it to a discharge.

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    for attack lines our pumpers carry 2 booster reels, 2 crosslays of 1-3/4" and a deuce and half.

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    Smile Try this monster

    Cross lays:
    1- 200 ft. of 2 1/2.
    1- 150 ft. of 2 1/2.
    1- 200 ft. of 1 3/4.

    Rear load:
    600 ft. of 2 1/2 with noz but not preconnected.
    1,000 ft. of 5 inch.

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    On the Engine:
    Two 1 3/4in. 200ft. crosslay preconnects
    One 2in. 200ft. crosslay preconnect
    One 2 1/2in. 300ft. hose bed preconnect

    On the Quint:
    Two 2in. crosslay peconnects

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    I would say the most used hose is 1 3/4", however we do not have a standard. Engines in Memphis have a standard compliment of (1) booster reel, (1) 1 3/4" front jumpline; (2) 1 3/4" crosslays; a reverse load of 2 1/2" hose wyed into (2) 1 3/4" lines; and 1066' of 5".

    I did not mention specific lengths because they vary depending on territory. For example, I have a lot of apartments and therefore carry longer than standard lengths on my booster reel and both cross lays.

    As stated, the 1 3/4" hose gets used the most, but I lay according to the situation. YOU CAN USE A BOOSTER REEL ON SMALL FIRES, NO MATTER WHERE THEY ARE!! THAT INCLUDES STRUCTURES!!
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    2 1.75" crosslays 200' in length
    1 2.5" Pre-connect 400' in length
    Extra 400' of 2.5" carried if needed
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    All have (2) 200' crosslays of 1.75"....... 2 of the trucks have (1) 200' 2.5" preconnect.......
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    one engine- 2 1.75" speedlays
    1 1.75" trash line
    1 2.5" BLitzline

    Second engine- 2 1.75" rear discahrge preconnects
    1 1.75" side discharge trash line
    1 2.5" Blitzline smoothbore

    Quint-2 1.75" crosslays
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    attack lines...
    Two 200 foot 1.75" in the crosslays with combo nozzles
    One 300 foot 1.75" in the rear with a combo nozzle.
    One 200 foot deuce and half with a 1 1/4" smoothbore.

    supply lines...
    800 feet of 3"
    1000 feet of 4"
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    Our first-out Engine has:

    Front Bumper:
    1 - 100' 1.5" Trashline
    1 - 75' 1.5" Trashline
    Speedlays:
    2 - 200' 1.5" w/TFT Automatics
    1 - 300' 1.5" w/SB
    Hosebed:
    1 - 250' 1.75" w/TFT Automatic
    1 - 250' 2.5" w/SB
    Booster Reel:
    1 - 200' 1" Booster

    All flat-lay (except the booster, of course), no fancy hose packs.
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    Default Compressed Air Foam System (CAFS)

    Engine:
    (1) 275' 1 1/2 solid bore
    (1) 150' 1 3/4 fog nozzle
    (1) 100' (ish) 1 3/4 for a dead lay
    All Compressed Air Foam (CAFS) in the crosslays

    400' 1 1/2 CAFS
    300' 1 3/4 straight water no CAFS
    400' deuce and half CAFS
    1200' 4" supply

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    (2) 150' 1 3/4 in the crosslays fog nozzles

    (2) Deuce and half on 4" x 2 1/2" siamese
    1600' 4" supply
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    We carry

    2- 1.75" 100' SM-30 automatic nozzles
    2- 1.75" 200' SM-20 automatic nozzles
    600' of 3" with a wye and 2-1.75" SM-20 automatic nozzles
    1500 GPM monitor pre-plumbed (used alot on blitz attacks)

    We have very large warehouses and alot of HazMat in our district. I use the 3"/1.75" load to advance into building or on apartments where the pre-connects won't reach. I use it several times a year. I also keep a 2.5"x5"storz adapter on the end of the 3". In the event we have to support a HazMat incident, I can connect to my 1800" of 5" and lay out keeping my truck and FEO (driver) out of the hot zone and up wind.
    We have alot of 14'x40' shotgun houses less than 20' off the road. The 100' 1.75" come in real handy. Don't have a huge knot of hose, or waste time stretching extra hose. Also used as car/trash fire lines.
    The 1500 gpm monitor...well I think you get the idea.

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    150' 1.75
    200' 1.75
    200' 2.00
    200' 2.5
    Bumper line is 100' 1.75 and 100' 1" trash line.
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    We use 1.75" and 3" sometimes.
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    on our 3 engines:
    4- 200 ft. 1 1/2" preconnects
    1- 150 ft. 2 1/2" preconnect

    Tanker:
    2- 200 ft. 1 1/2" preconnect

    Brush truck:
    2- 150 ft. 1" forestry lines
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    All of our attack lines are stored flaked in removable trays in lockers on the rear of the apparatus - all have nozzles attached, but aren't preconnected - we just break the line when we've pulled out enough hose.
    2x 500' of 1.5"
    2x 500' of 2.5"
    and we have a booster line on a reel which we use for trash and car fires etc.
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