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    Default anyone still work for a real FIRE department?

    In the year 2005 we find ourselves doing a lot that has nothing to do with fighting building fires. Does anyone out there have working fires take up the majority of their runs? Once a shift? week? month?


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    I'm not speaking for everyone, but I didn't get into the service to just drive BRTs and squirt water. Within certain reason, I help people who don't know who else to call when the crap hits the fan, whatever the crap of the moment might be.

    Since you asked, my last fire was a few weeks ago. That's just as well, since it pays to remember that every time the tones drop it means that (a) someone is dying, (b) someone's stuff is getting destroyed, or (c) we will soon be answering option (a) and/or (b) if we don't intervene right quick.

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    Well, as far as I know, I'm more into the rescue part of the job, so while I do enjoy fighting fires, I also enjoy the rest of the stuff we do. The only thing I hate is being called out to a call that sounds good, only be be recalled before we get there because it turned out to be BS.

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    "Real fire dept???". In the last 6 working days I have made 7 working fires(fires that took more than 1 engine). Monday we made 13 calls in 24 hrs. none fire calls. I guess my dept should be renamed fire rescue & public service. I have a log book at the station shows us responding to a drowning in 1938. We have been around since 1825 and career since 1925. Never heard of a time when we didn't roll for what ever the emergancy was. I personally won't have it any other way.

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    As a FIREmedic i have worked my share of private EMS services and don't want to go back there again. I went to a very busy fire service in a metro city to fight fires, at least thats what we used to be. I remember the days of at least one working fire every shift. We were forced through a fire-EMS merger and now it seems I spend more time running butt-aches than what I came here to do. The last two working multi-alarm fires in my first due I have been toting people that needed a swift kick in the butt more than anything else. It's not at all what I came here to do but I don't have a choice. Times have changed and I don't like it but must accept it. We used to rin life threatening calls (ie: cardiac arrests, ped/auto, shootings...) now we go on 20 y/o with a headache for 2 weeks, why???


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    Default Re: anyone still work for a real FIRE department?

    Originally posted by Ryan1239
    In the year 2005 we find ourselves doing a lot that has nothing to do with fighting building fires.....
    The same was true in 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001, 2000, 1999, 1998, 1997, 1996, 1995.....1954, 1953, 1952....get my drift?

    The job has always entailed much more than "water on the fire." Fire prevention, fire inspections, community service, equipment maintenance, personnel training, paperwork, more training, more maintenance, classroom, practical, more paperwork.

    A "real" fire department does all of the above on a regular basis. It's all part of being a "real" firefighter.

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    Default Re: Re: anyone still work for a real FIRE department?

    Originally posted by NJFFSA16


    The same was true in 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001, 2000, 1999, 1998, 1997, 1996, 1995.....1954, 1953, 1952....get my drift?

    The job has always entailed much more than "water on the fire." Fire prevention, fire inspections, community service, equipment maintenance, personnel training, paperwork, more training, more maintenance, classroom, practical, more paperwork.

    A "real" fire department does all of the above on a regular basis. It's all part of being a "real" firefighter.

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    In the year 2005 we find ourselves doing a lot that has nothing to do with fighting building fires. Does anyone out there have working fires take up the majority of their runs? Once a shift? week? month?
    I work for a make-believe fire department. You should see all the trucks: We've got a Seagrave 110 Foot ladder-tower, two Pierce 2000 gpm pumpers, a nice big heavy rescue, a TWO 3000 gal tankers. NO AMBULANCCES. It's great. We go to a working fire every hour. I sit in the cab and go, "WOOO-WOO-WOOOO-WOOOOOOOOO" (mainly because my siren is make believe, too).

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    I agree with Acklan there's more to the fire service today then driving BRTs and squirting water as RLFD said. I bet you wouldn't bitch and moan if the tones went out and that medical call was at your house or the house of someone u knew.

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    We used to be a "real" fire department, too. It was when we ran about a dozen calls a year, probably most of them grass/field fires. Training? Didn't exist. If you could get the hose off the trucka and open the nozzle, you were a firefighter. We're still not busy, but with 150 calls or so a year, it's more interesting.
    I could not justify our existence if we only went to structure fires maybe 5 times a year. As a taxpayer, I'd say it was a waste to have a half million dollars worth of trucks and equipment just to put out a handful of fires that, unfortunately, were a total loss from the beginning.
    I'll rephrase my first sentence. We ARE a real fire department that runs fire, rescue and medical calls.
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    The last two working multi-alarm fires in my first due I have been toting people that needed a swift kick in the butt more than anything else. It's not at all what I came here to do but I don't have a choice.
    If these type of calls bother you that much I think you do have a choice, find another line of work. That is what we are here for, to assist the citizens of our community/city, no matter how small YOU may think the problem is.
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    I'm a member of a REAL fire department as is just about everybody here is. When the tones go off we respond, we use our training to the best of our abilities and we go home and wait for the next one. Regardless of the nature of the incident and whether or not you like it or not, the fire service is exactly that... a service agency. We are there to help restore order and mitigate what some fellow man feels is a crisis whether perceived or legitimate.

    We just continue to paint XYZ Fire Department on our rigs because it would take too much paint and gold leaf to write "XYZ do everything nobody else wants to do Department"

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    First off we have BGTís our trucks are green. My fire department is very real. Everyday we get a call no matter what it may be, we show up and show the community we are there in their time of need. Iím happy to say most of our calls are not fires. I know what some of you maybe think. Everyone wants to run on the big fire. I would rather know that my community and residents are safe. We have to earn the support of our community to keep us in business. Times are hard and money is tight in many communities. The more service we can give the better the value. When ever our phone rings someone is in need of help. I find a lot of gratification in helping anyone. Even better when I hear someone talking about us in public and how we helped. That gives me a better high than fighting any fire. Helping people in their time of need is our business.
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    I had no doubt this would get people fired up. I could have simply titled the post "How many working fires have you made in the past week?" I thought the chosen title would get a little more of a response. To clarify, I don't make a fire every shift. In fact it may be a month or two between working fires on my shift. I love fighting fire, it is a blast. And I don't like to get up at 3AM for a run to a frequent flier. However, these are the two extremes. 90% of what I do is somewhere in between. I haven't been first due at a working fire in 6 weeks, but I still consider myself a real fireman. I still enjoy helping Grandma by easing her chest pains, or showing citizens the truck when we are at the grocery store, and everything else. Call comes in, trucks go out, everytime. Thanks for the responses guys.

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    Originally posted by Ryan1239
    And I don't like to get up at 3AM for a run to a frequent flier.
    Think about what you said. Who do you think pays for your service? I work for a department not far from you and am well aware of the "frequent fliers" in the metroplex. I DO NOT care who it is that is requesting our service, we are there to respond to their request. If you are not satisfied with the 3 a.m. calls then maybe it is time to find another job. If you are looking to make several workings fires every day then I believe that you are in the wrong location. All have stated that we are in this for more than the fires. Yea, everyone likes being "on the nob" and first due. The fire service has evolved into a community based resource over the past 200 years and we are here to assist our "CUSTOMERS" anyway possible. I do not care if is a 3 a.m. call for a frequent flier or a water sweep job or a working fire we are there for the citizens.

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    Whats wrong with what ryan said? I don't know many guys that are that into ems runs. Who wouldn't rather take in fires and whats wrong with admitting it? Many guys here are dropping their emt status since they started making Firefighters ride a bls ambo every couple of months. 3% pay for being an emt just isn't worth it to most guys. All the guys on my shift are dropping emt. I guess that says about how most guys I know feel here.

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    3AM frequent fliers. Show me a fireman anywhere who springs out of bed with a smile on his face to run this call. Not going to happen. It doesn't mean they can't do their job as a professional, and with compassion. As with any job, their are aspects that people enjoy and those they dread. You still have a duty to perform, and I have yet to see someone refuse to respond to ANYTHING.

    Back to the original thread.

    In the year 2005 we find ourselves doing a lot that has nothing to do with fighting building fires. Does anyone out there have working fires take up the majority of their runs? Once a shift? week? month?

    Granted, the title was intented to get a little attention, but I am still curious. Are there fire departments out there which have more fire calls than anything else?

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