ground ladders

[MEAN15]

OK, I'm sure this has been covered before, but please humor me. I tried the search feature and didn't find what I was looking for.

Can anyone give me the NFPA reccomendations for ground ladders on a quint and on a truck? Do they have individual ladder lengths, or just a total overall length?

Is there also a list of recommended equipment for trucks and quints? Is this list available online somewhere?

I need some quick answers and I haven't gotten around to ordering the 1901 book yet.

[npfd801]

I don't have access to the NFPA stuff at work (which probably hasn't been updated for the apparatus stuff anyway), but nosing around the web reveals this:

A quint is required to carry 85 feet of ground ladders. A straight truck/ladder apparatus is required to carry 115 feet of ground ladders.

NFPA has eliminated specific ladder lengths for both aerials and pumpers, I would suspect the same is true of quints. The only requirement is that aerials now need to carry a minimum of two straight ladders, two extension ladders and an attic ladder.

Sorry, I don't have the required equipment lists in front of me, and again - I'd be willing to bet work's is out of date.

[rtalma]

Also, remember that ISO for your rating schedule has a higher reqirement of ladders to carry. Orginallyt NFPA and ISO were the same, then NFPA began requiring less as a minimum and many builders went to the minimum. I do not have the ISO numbers in front of me, but it starts with two 35 footers and a 28 extensions.

Just a thought for consideration so you are not surprised when your new NFPA quint or ladder only gets partial ISO credit.

[Halligan84]

ISO says:
1 40
1 28
1 20
1 14
1 10

NFPA says:
Ground Ladders.

A minimum of 115 ft of ground ladders shall be supplied and installed by the contractor.

As a minimum, the following types of ladders shall be provided:

One attic ladder
Two straight ladders with folding roof hooks
Two extension ladders

Pretty close to the same MINIMUM requirement. ISO allows for some equivalencies

[MEAN15]

Actually, ISO sez:
1-40
1-35
1-28
1-20
1-16
1-14
1-10
http://isomitigation.com/ppc/3000/ppc3006.html
http://isomitigation.com/ppc/3000/ppc3005.html

[Halligan84]

True enough!.. that's the doc I was looking for in the first place, all I could find was the equivalency table. Thanks