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    Yup. Nothing like having a couple hundred "experts" coming to the rescue. We were just about finished with the tug of war. Remember the reddish/brownish pit? Few gallons of ocean water, couple large bags of purina dog chow, powdered hawiian punch mix, and some gravy for coloring. THAT left a mark on quite a few white uniform shirts.

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    have to mark the calander-

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    I agree with george, which strangely enough has been happening a lot lately. Anyway, bones your assesment of the convention is dead on. I have even read in an earlier post someone complain about the four hours that you are actualy supposed to be doing something, hello you get paid to be there if you are a delegate. Suck it up. In answer to an earlier question, yes an off duty PD member struck and killed a person. Last year or the year before a person tried to go swimming in one of the worst currents in NJ and sadly died. It is realy a sad state of affairs. I only go because I live less than 5 miles away and can get out before it gets too ugly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MEck51
    I agree with george, which strangely enough has been happening a lot lately. Anyway, bones your assesment of the convention is dead on. I have even read in an earlier post someone complain about the four hours that you are actualy supposed to be doing something, hello you get paid to be there if you are a delegate. Suck it up. In answer to an earlier question, yes an off duty PD member struck and killed a person. Last year or the year before a person tried to go swimming in one of the worst currents in NJ and sadly died. It is realy a sad state of affairs. I only go because I live less than 5 miles away and can get out before it gets too ugly.
    Did the off-duty PD member also happen to be a volly?

    Don't forget. Someone post one piece of meaningful business that was accomplished down there.

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    Don't forget. Someone post one piece of meaningful business that was accomplished down there.
    We've answered 6 calls including an MVA with entrapment since half our guys headed south!?!?!

    Oh wait that was something meaningful that got accomplished up here where we are still sworn to protect our community!!!

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    Well, as far as I could tell the convention was calm. But then again I was under my car half the time (POS Merc. decided to throw a tie-rod end, cost me $200 to get it repair and it had to be cash) alot of talk in the meeting again about housing in Wildwood and the same replies. The item about benefits for firefighters on active duty with the military that are killed in action did pass, and after a heated talk the exec. committee was pressured into having a quick meeting about upping the money for lifemembers and delegates by $25 for this convention and afterwards they will review the cost of housing and transportation each year. Again the subject of a second fireman's home was brought up with no reply from the exec. end.
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    Just returned from the State Convention. We arrived in Wildwood on Thursday afternoon. Went to the boardwalk late in the afternoon and paid 4 dollars to park in the lot behind Macks Pizza. We stayed late and returned to our rented house. The next morning we went to the same lot only finding that the price to park was now 10 dollars. We paid and headed to the tents and truck displays. When walking out of the lot were we parked there was a pile of signs made with prices up to $30 for parking. We walked passed one location charging 20 dollars and another charging 25 dollars. Pricey huh. Well we returned back to our rental and decided to go back to the boardwalk that evening. Again the price changed for parking. Saturday we went to Cape May. Walked the shops and paid 4 dollars per hour for parking at the Acme. We ate at a local pub and lunch cost us 75 dollars (6 people). Some of us could only eat half of our sandwiches due to the meat being real strong. On the way out of this pub I picked up another menu and found the pricing to be less. The girl in charge said that this was their regular menu. The menu we were given was for our weekend at the shore. We left there and went back to the rental. Dinner that evening was at a Buffet on Oak street. They charged 11 dollars per person for food that we found dried out and bad tasting. We left there and went to the parking lot by the Convention center where the cost for parking according to the sign was two dollars. When we returned to this same lot Sat night to attend the parade awards the fee changed to three dollars. The total out of pocket expenses came to $300 not including the rental. This by the way was an additional $300. I get nothing from the Relief Association because I choose not to attend the meeting. This is a very expensive weekend for us on a fixed income.

    I hope something changes so that we can continue to enjoy this Convention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJTF1Bowman
    Well, as far as I could tell the convention was calm. But then again I was under my car half the time (POS Merc. decided to throw a tie-rod end, cost me $200 to get it repair and it had to be cash) alot of talk in the meeting again about housing in Wildwood and the same replies. The item about benefits for firefighters on active duty with the military that are killed in action did pass, and after a heated talk the exec. committee was pressured into having a quick meeting about upping the money for lifemembers and delegates by $25 for this convention and afterwards they will review the cost of housing and transportation each year. Again the subject of a second fireman's home was brought up with no reply from the exec. end.
    So if I understand you correctly, most of the business at the convention was convention-related. Soif they didn't have a convention to complain about, there would be almost no business to discuss and no need for a convention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njt4276
    Just returned from the State Convention. We arrived in Wildwood on Thursday afternoon. Went to the boardwalk late in the afternoon and paid 4 dollars to park in the lot behind Macks Pizza. We stayed late and returned to our rented house. The next morning we went to the same lot only finding that the price to park was now 10 dollars. We paid and headed to the tents and truck displays. When walking out of the lot were we parked there was a pile of signs made with prices up to $30 for parking. We walked passed one location charging 20 dollars and another charging 25 dollars. Pricey huh. Well we returned back to our rental and decided to go back to the boardwalk that evening. Again the price changed for parking. Saturday we went to Cape May. Walked the shops and paid 4 dollars per hour for parking at the Acme. We ate at a local pub and lunch cost us 75 dollars (6 people). Some of us could only eat half of our sandwiches due to the meat being real strong. On the way out of this pub I picked up another menu and found the pricing to be less. The girl in charge said that this was their regular menu. The menu we were given was for our weekend at the shore. We left there and went back to the rental. Dinner that evening was at a Buffet on Oak street. They charged 11 dollars per person for food that we found dried out and bad tasting. We left there and went to the parking lot by the Convention center where the cost for parking according to the sign was two dollars. When we returned to this same lot Sat night to attend the parade awards the fee changed to three dollars. The total out of pocket expenses came to $300 not including the rental. This by the way was an additional $300. I get nothing from the Relief Association because I choose not to attend the meeting. This is a very expensive weekend for us on a fixed income.

    I hope something changes so that we can continue to enjoy this Convention.
    What are you going to change? Pass a law that says you have to cook good food? Pass a law that says you can't raise prices when a special event comes to town? Pass a law that says you can only charge $1 to park on private property?

    I can fix these problems easily. Don't go. All FF boycott next year's convention. The secret is that you don't need to have a convention anyway. Have a one day meeting somwhere, get the mandatory business done and go home. Screw Wildwood. It is a city in decline and doesn't know it yet.

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    I've attended the firemens convention for the past 6 years 3 of them as a regular firefighter, I'm only 20yrs old and I've had enough already...Its expensive and theres nothing but problems because everyone gets there beer muscles and thinks they are big and bad....sure it happens all the time...but seems to happen more so amongst the firefighters. The tents this year were OK...Found some good little toys for my gear at decent prices...most of the t-shirts they were selling were "wackerish" On a good note I was mighty impressed with what the Fire Association has done with the Make a wish foundation and what they did for the kid who was the grand marshal of the parade. giving him that turnout gear was a really nice gesture but yea...the convention this year on a scale of 1-10....I give it about a 3 or 4....As for attending next year...I dont think so.....The hotel we've been staying in is being demolished to make room for yet MORE condo's. The convention needs a major overhaul and until things change for the better...I dont think I will be attending anymore...On the bright side we did get to check out some tower ladders and get information for a new truck...That was about the only thing we got accomplished this weekend of importance..
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    it was a waste of time.

    I went down on saturday, left around noon, figured everything would still be on show until 5pm.

    got there around 2pm, all the demo trucks were gone, the tents were all closed, the place was deserted.

    I won't pay to stay over night, it's a waste of money because all that goes on at night is everyone gets totally wasted.

    two hours down, two hours back, nothing to eat between 2pm and 4:30pm (everything was closed).

    unless them move it to a more centralized location, as well as provide other stuff to do on the weekend time (and not close at 5pm), I probably will never go down to wildwood again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI
    So if I understand you correctly, most of the business at the convention was convention-related. Soif they didn't have a convention to complain about, there would be almost no business to discuss and no need for a convention.

    How'd I do?
    You are correct, most of what was brought up was about the convention at Wildwood and the problems with housing. The last 30 minutes was interesting because someone did their homework and had the exec committee over a barrel on a motion on the floor. We did vote "NO" on having the convention in Wildwood for 2010 or more like not to decide on Wildwood in 2010
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    The bottom line is that this organization does nothing to advance or promote the fire service in NJ. There are so many issues facing the fire service in NJ, yet these guys simply go out to perpetuate their party time. It's a waste of time, money and resources to continue to have this convention and pretend that this organization is doing some good.

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    can a list of the winners be found anywhere??? highest BAC. , most vomit in one try. first to get so drunk they **** themselves??

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    Actually, I had a pretty good time. Saw quite a few vendors that I wanted to who had the products on site to see. Found a couple new restaraunts that are off the beaten path. Saw a bunch of friends from around the state that I don't see enough of. Saw more State Forest Service vehicles than I knew existed. Meetingwise, sorry to say but the leaders of this organization again embarrassed themselves in showing how incompetent they are and the epitomy of the "good ole boys club".

    It will be interesting to see how many of the guys that spoke up about the location will come back with ANY suggestions of new locations. It's been talked about for years and there has yet to be a valid suggestion.

    I will admit that I was surprised that the resolution to increase the max age failed.
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    I went down Weds. and returned Sunday. Theres 20 of us that stay at the same motel and we didn't have any problems. We compiled alot of information for spec'ing out our new truck and had some gear questions answered for spending our grant money.
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    Get ready for price gouging to set in for next year. This was our last year at our current motel - getting knocked down sometime in the next 2 weeks. We lost our previous motel 4 years ago to the same thing. We tried to get into a new place for next year and were told that we must rent the entire motel, for a price of $165 a night per room for street side, $185 a night for ocean side. As the motel owner said, "It's all about the money, if you don't like it, then don't come down." The same place only charges between $50 and $65 a night for Irish weekend.

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    This the last year for the motel I stayed at also......Big sign out front for the condos that will be going up in it's place....going for $649.900 per unit....there is no way you can tell me that the prices during the convention don't go up (them dumb firemen will pay anything to stay) and don't look for relief when the new motels get built (brand new motel/hotel are going to charge out the @$$ for rooms) which won't be available for another 2 to 3 years down the road. I hope the "NO" vote for the 2010 convention gets some attention in Wildwood, The Wildwood Business Assco. better wake up and smell the smoke cause this is going to be a four banger by that time if nothing is done to control the motel/hotel owners jacking the rates up.
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    I checked out a few of these new $500k+ condos that were under constuction when I was down there. The majority of them are no bigger then the average motel room. Sorry, if I'm going to invest that much money into a property, it's not going to be in Wildwood.

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    Well, NJTF1 Bowman,

    You really hit the nail on the head with this one. That's all the convention seems to be anymore, nothing but "whackers" and the every popular public description of the term "Volunteer Firefighter" - Overweight, Smoking, Beer Swilling, Every FD T-shirt wearing person. Thanks for keeping the volunteer image alive fellas!

    I stopped going when the department made it clear that "your" family isn't welcome down here 'cause we are gonna get drunk, raise some h&ll (sorry closest thing to an e I could find), and drive apparatus around with the lights on, heaven forbid you should stop by and say HI and maybe eat some food from the hospitality room!! Besides the Sales tax, Hotel Tax, Convention Tax, and any other tax we can slap on has gotten way out of control.

    Although I do like the Idea of making the convention productive by having some training going on. I mean you've got all these vendors displaying there products lets have some H.O.T. training going on and make a sale!!! You want me to buy your extrication gear because you have them sticking out of a car in serveral spots, SCBA, Turnout gear beacuse it looks pretty on the manakin???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knighthawk
    Oh well, enough for now - you call all rip me a new one now.
    Rip you a new one??? FOR WHAT?? Being right?

    I bet if you offered HOT and Classroom training along with the meeting part of the convention that my dept would be a 180 degree swing. Those of us who stay home and maintain a working dept would want to go and the 'others' would not be interested and would stay home.

    Sad isn't it??

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    I'm not sure what I should make of Wildwood. I drove down there by my self, and the convention center was closed. The tents were already starting to pack up, and there was supposed to be a parade, but I missed it trying to see what the vendors brought. I wasn't impressed though. Most of what I saw, I'd already seen in catalogs ( and cheaper too). To top it off, I couldn't find where I parked my car ( which led to it's own adventure) and I couldn't eat until after 4:30 in Cape May to get seafood. I felt like I was driving all over for nothing. But hey... Dr. Parasite got a $41 Lobster tail out of it... see how grateful I was to have a FF brother come save me!
    I think it would be more productive if most of the convention took place later in the week and into the weekend, so not as much time could be whittled away on booze.. ofcourse, if I want to pretend that I'm in a B-movie remake of Animal House ( Firefighter style) I could always join the part a little earlier next year!
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    I agree that the Association does little to nothing for firefighter causes. My personal feeling is that the relief money should be used while we are alive for safety and operations. Think about the average town merely investing in a 10K term life insurance policy, the cost would be far less than what is in the Relief accounts now. As far as the rest of the weekend, I had always thought that the Association ran that too until a few years ago. The Wildwood FD's put the rest of the weekend on (parade, tents, etc..) , I would suppose any training opportunities could be coordinated through them if they were interested. My company always has a pretty good time, we pay our own way except for delegates and get together for a barbeque during the parade. For quite a few of our members the whole family comes down. The room rates are getting crazy, but where along the Jersey shore isn't?

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    Ok, for Sassy and DrP, who appear to not know when the convention is, the tents are open from around 8am FRIDAY until around 12:00pm SATURDAY. The meetings are 1pm on FRIDAY and 10am SATURDAY. The parade starts at 1pm on SATURDAY. Most of the trucks on display are gone before the parade starts as some of them are in the parade. Coming down late morning on Saturday you will see very little of anything convention related as that is when it ends. Saturday night, at the convention hall, there is a short ceremony giving out awards from the parade.

    as for eating...anyone that would pay $41 for a lobster tail (I hope it was at least good )
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    Thanks Bones... I'll keep that in mind for next year, after all I wasn't even sure what Wildwood was two weeks ago...As for the lobster tail.. I bought that for DrP. And I finished it for him(he wasn't impressed) and yes it was good. I wanted Seafood ( the ocean smell did it) and we couldn't find anything, so we ended up carpooling over to the Lobster House in Cape May. Not bad, but more than it was worth. A beer and steak would've been better and cheaper. Again... all things to keep in mind next year ( if I go).
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