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    I would wrestle but you would run as soon as you saw me in the tights (from disgust mostly!). Sorry you had to carry the torch for the safty side this time, but you saw me get beat up by others on the other thread so you aren't alone. This ones used up now - bring on the next fight! How about initial attack using just your 500 gallons of tank water?


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    He He! Awe shucks Chicago - I bet you look purty cute in them tights ~grinz...

    And yes, I don't mind getting beat up. It's how you learn that your opinion is nothing more than that - your opinion.

    I think that I'll just leave that last comment alone!
    "When you throw dirt, you lose ground."

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    Yeah - the tank issue would get uglier. I don't know about the rest of you but Ember did very well carrying the ball for safety.
    Jacktee

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    You know, I hate to beat a dead horse (I would rather lurk and watch other people beat it )....

    This BFD wearing bunkers or not, SCBA or not subject is rather fruitless, but I wanted to mention one quick item that I haven't seen in this thread yet. The study that is oft quoted in this thread makes the assertion that heat related injuries have gone up since the modified bunker policy went into effect, based on these numbers:

    1/1/1996 - 8/2/2000 - 556 (9.4%)
    8/3/2000 - 8/31/2000 - 297 (12.0%)

    Total numbers of injuries for the same above time periods is as follows:

    1/1/1996 - 8/2/2000 - 5889
    8/3/2000 - 8/31/2000 - 2469

    Now, my math may not be the best, but does anyone else see a problem with the above numbers? 2500 injuries in less than 1 month, when they only had 5900 in 54 months prior? What numbers are they not including in the study, or what numbers are they including with the second half and not the first?

    Statistics are so easy to manipulate, my belief in them is about nil. I would like to see hard workers comp claim numbers to get a good handle on the actual numbers of injuries before and after the policy went into effect.

    Great discussion by the way (especially like the discourse between Ember and Jack...makes the work day go faster).

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    Other than that, stay safe

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    ~tapping Stonehawk on the shoulder...

    Point made on the stats - good one at that. And I also agree that the discussion was great...I think I learned a lot (ha ha guys! )

    But if you really don't want to beat a dead horse, then come and join us...we're over here drinking beer and mud wrestling:

    http://forums.firehouse.com/showthread.php?t=72886

    "When you throw dirt, you lose ground."

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    Stonehawk :

    Good questions.
    Jacktee

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