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    Eng. 11-10 Dash Cam Response

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    The Dash Cam tilted a bit...

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    How very cool. Do you have any info on the fire?

    My favorite was the video where they actually get to put water on the fire. You can really see how the fire has a mind of it's own. It looked like it was playing games with the FFs.
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    that officers foot must have been glued to that Q pedal...that thing was wound up max almost the entire time...and i can see why! That dash cam was a cool one...you'll always get those that just don't wanna stop.
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    Good video.

    You can find more response videos at:

    blowupyourFederalQ.com




    Just kidding............fix the camera mount.
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    Fire does NOT have a "mind of its own". FIre is a physical and chemical phenomenon that is completely predictable if the circumstances are known and understood.

    That is why a knoweldge of fire science is so vitally important. Check out the fire science thread on here.

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    Good Division A video. I was actually impressed that they blackened it down so fast.

    My only question is; where was that D side hoseline going? Interior, or just ground floor?
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    Good video, but if the D Side guys are going in, would it not be a good idea to stop A side master streams? Maybe its just me, or we didn't see where the D side guys were going (attack from out or in). With that much fire involvement and weakening walls, it could be possible that the master streams could push down walls and such on any incomming crews from the back. Just a thought. Still a good video, gotta love the Q

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcaldwell
    Good Division A video. I was actually impressed that they blackened it down so fast.

    My only question is; where was that D side hoseline going? Interior, or just ground floor?
    Mcaldwell, my thoughts exactly! Can you explain that for us Eng29 - dont want to arm chair without all the facts
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    I do not believe that fire is or ever will be "completely predictable." There are far too many variables that can go into fire progression
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccfdblehman
    I do not believe that fire is or ever will be "completely predictable." There are far too many variables that can go into fire progression
    Then you have never taken a fire science course or have used computer fir modelling.

    Fire is a 100% predictable, mathematically calculable phenomenon. given the same set of circumstances, it will burn exactly the same way every time. That has been proven many times over. A quick perusal though the NIST library will provide you with all the resources you need.

    The challenge for fire service professionals is to recognize that the same set of circumstances never exist twice. Applying what we know about the phenomenon of fire to the changing circumstances is what seperates truly effective fire officers and fire fighters from the posers.

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    George, can you provide some links to some of the NIST materials? I'm curious to read up on some of this. I'm still just getting my feet wet in the fire service after all.
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    That was some awesome footage man!

    Very exciting! hahha
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    Nice Video, btw
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    I think I heard that this went to 6 Alarms and burned out a block.

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    blowupyourFederalQ.com


    This address doesnt exist. Anyone know any good webpages that have run clips and dash cams?
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    Man, I bet Federal Signal parts department loves THAT guy! Anyway, not to be too much of a geek, but did you hear the GE Power Call underneath the Q? Nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainMikey
    blowupyourFederalQ.com


    This address doesnt exist. Anyone know any good webpages that have run clips and dash cams?
    http://forums.firehouse.com/showthre...esponse+videos

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    "blowupyourfederalQ.com" was a joke for the guy standing on the Q pedal and not letting up.

    here........try this on CaptMikey.....

    http://florycanto.net/images/bushimpcom/beavisbush.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Res343cue
    George, can you provide some links to some of the NIST materials? I'm curious to read up on some of this. I'm still just getting my feet wet in the fire service after all.
    Start here:
    http://www.fire.nist.gov/
    There are so many documents and resources here that you really have to search for yourself. Once you get in to http://fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/, you can search alphabetically for your specific topic of interest.

    Bear in mind, that many of these are documents written by PhD's and are based on scientific research and experimentation. You won't find any war stories on this site.

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    thats pretty good footage, anyone know where i could find more fire footage like this?

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    Sam that must be you above, it's 45s tower...lol..I'll see if he has any more videos

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    nope, this is corey
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    Nice videos!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse
    However, no two structures are exactly the same, and hence, no 2 fires are the same. Given the large myriad of structures we soon see that we have a chaotic system in which predictability goes out the window. For you see, it is the circumstances that are constantly changing, which in effect, changes the behavior of the fire. Given an identical structure, with identical furnishings, with identical weather conditions, with the same origin and source of the fire, I would agree that the fire is predictable. Given that not all of these things are ever identical (or predictable) I would say that the fire can never be 100% predictable, we can only make a best guess at the behavior.
    All research in the field shows that you are wrong. You also did not read my post. The chemical and physical reaction of fire is 100% calculable and predictable. There are mathematical formulas that are the foundation of computer fire models that have been developed. People a WHOLE lot smarter than you or me are constantly conducting research to refine our knowledge of the phenomenon of fire.


    I also posted; "The challenge for fire service professionals is to recognize that the same set of circumstances never exist twice. ". An effective fire service professoinal leanrs everything that he can about the phenomenon of fire so that he can apply that knowledge to the dynammic circumstances and conditions that he encounters ta a fire scene.

    Did you check out any of the links that I provided above? I suggest that you do. I am tired of hearing FF (not you) say that fire is a living breathing animal or that it is a beast and crap like that.

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    Here are two links that will provide a solid background in understanding fire research and how the development of mathematical calculations of fire development are used to predict real world fire conditions.

    http://fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/fire97/PDF/f97052.pdf
    http://fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/fire03/PDF/f03125.pdf

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