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    Question Facepiece Identification

    Has anyone come up with a method of Permanently marking SCBA facepieces for identification. We've tried asset tags that don't stay. We've tried permanent marker on the netting - it fades. I've seen vendors marking carbon fiber bottles with stickers and covering them with epoxy. Any thoughts ?? Thanks for the info.

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    Use an engraver on the trim around the facepiece.

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    We have ID numbers molded in the facepiece during the manufacture process. The only way to get rid of them is to completely destroy the mask.

    I tried to take a pic, but they didn't come out very good.
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    Why mark something like that? We stopped marking things, Cylinders for one, because marking served no useful purpose. In the case of a cylinder, if one at my station goes bad, I send it to the Maintainence Division and they send me another. When we marked the cylinders, everyones apparatus had cylinders from 2 or 3 other pieces on it. Looked kinda silly, so we quit marking them.
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    We use a labelmaker and attach a label on the facepiece under the chin area - we've never had a problem with them coming off. Some guys mark their netting with permanent marker as well - it only takes a minute to remark it occasionally.

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    The Mask Service Unit here engraves the users name and I think a job serial number under the space that accepts the regulator near the chin cup. This never wears off and makes for easy identification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods
    Why mark something like that? We stopped marking things, Cylinders for one, because marking served no useful purpose. In the case of a cylinder, if one at my station goes bad, I send it to the Maintainence Division and they send me another. When we marked the cylinders, everyones apparatus had cylinders from 2 or 3 other pieces on it. Looked kinda silly, so we quit marking them.


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    Here we are assigned our facepieces. If you lose it, you buy it. Hence, all the facepieces are marked for personal identification. Additionally, we probably have 1000 bottles, maybe more. I am sure the bottles are marked for maintainence reasons, ie keeping track of which ones have be hydrostaically tested, etc; not to keep certain bottles assigned to certain companies.

    Our backplates are id'ed and assigned to apparatus.
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    We also have over 1000 cylinders so to keep track of them they have a sticker that is applied and then epoxy is applied over the entire thing. Last forever. That is all done by our breathing air people.

    As for masks...everyone has their own (525 people) and each mask has a small quarter-sized brass circle that is engraved with our employee number. It is then attached with a zip-tie (cable tie; whatever) and I have not heard of many coming off. Once again this is done by our breathing air division.

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    My Dept does exactly the same as Farmun's. Never had a problem.

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    Guess I could have been a bit more specific. I was referring to the practice (in some places) of painting the Unit ID (E-16, T-60, etc.) on the cylinder. The cylinders and backplates are identified and tracked by serial number. On the Facepiece angle, I can see a need to identify those that are assigned to individuals. In my station, only about 6 people have personally assigned facepieces. We carry a facepiece with each SCBA Unit, and the "odd sizes" are issued to individuals who have a specific need. One young lady who does a great job, does it with an extra small facepiece. I have a SCBA in my buggy, and the facepiece is "off the shelf", and I have never had a problem with it. We "Fit Test" annually, and there is a plan to eventually issue facepieces to the individual, instead of the apparatus.
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    We have facepieces in the rigs mounted above the seats and match to the type regulator used (BMR or MMR MSA units).
    Most of the senior people have their own masks and carry them in a cloth bag and have them marked with a white paint pen.
    It doesn't seem to wash off in the mask cleaning bucket and if they can't keep up with their toys,it helps them figure how whose is whose.

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    We dont want to mark ours on a permenant basis as people do retire, change departments and what not. When this happens, the masks are sanitized, replaceable parts replaced and re-issued to new people. While assigned, we use a lable maker in which we load clear tape with black lettering. We make a lable with the new persons name and attatch it to the bottom of the eye piece (out of the field of vision) on the inside of the mask. Weve been doing this for years and it works well.
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    Most of us just use the permanent marker on the netting for facepieces.

    Our bottles are marked with reflective tape and numbers to identify them as ours and to assist with maintenance tracking.

    The pack frames are numbered for which rig it goes on....
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    Ours are marked with a label maker and also engraved with the persons number. Example:
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    The plastic aroudn the facepiece the hard plastic that is can be engraved with small lettering that's what I did , just my inititials and works great , plus the marker on the netting also every so often with my initials.
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    we dont have individual masks (yet) ............we do number our cylinders for maintence. Harnesses have the unit stenciled and spray painted on them.
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    Ours are engraved on the clear plastic down in the lower corners with name and file number.

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    Thumbs up Thanks all

    Thank you all for the info. Be safe !!

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