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    I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought what WalMart has done is a good thing........

    Thanks, George!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trafficjockey93
    George you forgot a detail. Almost as soon as the winds subsided Wal-Mart donated 1 million dollars to the relief effort and sent down 10 tractor trailer loads of water.

    Now talk about brotherhood and taking care of your own!

    Every Wal-Mart not affected by Katrina is doing fund raising to pay to rebuild all the Associates houses that were lost. Plus Wal-mart is matching those funds dollar for dollar. This is on top of the fund raising they are doing for the Red Cross which is also matched dollar for dollar. PLUS, Wal-Mart Associates are volunteering to go down there for 6 weeks at a time to help rebuild those houses and also the stores. Oh yeah, I almost forgot, Wal-mart
    will be paying these people to do this and is also picking up travel, lodging and food expenses.
    Whether these displaced Associates choose to go to another store or not is up to them. They will still get their paycheck regardless.

    Yep, they sure do suck!

    Yeah, I sure did. But I got caught up arguing with uninformed WalMart haters that I forgot that part.

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    i just want to give you some facts about walmart... it shows pretty clear that i am not a fan of this company...

    but i also want so say that this should not be discussed in an hurricane forum...

    Walmart:

    business volume (2002): 187.30 Billion Euro
    profit (2002): 5.67 Billion Euro
    employees (2002): 1.387.000

    Walmart is known for paying just minimum wage.
    Walmart often refuses to pay overtime:

    In 2000 69.000 employees in Colorado sued Walmart for paying 50 Million dollars for overtime.

    Currently there are 200.000 employees in Texas sueing Walmart for 150 Million Dollars of overtime payment.

    Situations of factories who deliver to Wal Mart are even worse:

    The "Beximco" Factory in Bangladesh, who delivered to Walmart, provided in 1999 following conditions:
    daily work time: 12.5 hours, 7 days a week
    9 - 21 cents payment per hour (thats 40 - 70% below local minimum wage)

    In a factory in China, who delivered to Walmart, emloyees had to work 30 days a month. They had to sleep in the factory, got two meals a day, their payment was about 11.54 Euros per month. But they had to pay the factory so much for the meals and housing that in the end they owed money to the factory.

    And then they praise themself by donating so much money. Thats just disgusting.


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    Exclamation Walmart vs. Fire Department (wages)

    I read a couple people saying that Walmart pays low wages. They do, but
    not too long ago, I had a brief discussion with a firefighter from Baton Rouge discussing wages in LA. He said: "Louisiana is like most southern states, firefighter pay is low. we have departments with firefighters making only $20k a year after a few years of service."
    That's exactly what any full-time, entry level Walmart employee with a few years of service makes around here.
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    to join in the disgust of walmart.......
    http://www.wakeupwalmart.com

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    Who else has stepped up as big time as walmart? To date no one that I have found. You don't have to like them or give them a pat on the back, however they are helping out bigtime. I hope for the many homeless that other companies follow their lead and give.

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    What WalMart is doing and has done for the Katrina victims is commendable. Hopefully it will be a shining example to other corporations on how to step up. I will not denegrate that effort.

    Does my appreciation of their releif effort change my mind about them in their everyday business practices? Not in the least. Will I become a Walmart customer because of their humanitarian efforts? Nope. Will I go to Hell? Most likely, but not because George doesn't like my viewpoint.

    I believe in the United States of America choice is one of our God given rights...and it is clearly within my rights to not shop at WalMart and to point out clearly to those that do why I choose not to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp
    What WalMart is doing and has done for the Katrina victims is commendable. Hopefully it will be a shining example to other corporations on how to step up. I will not denegrate that effort.

    Does my appreciation of their releif effort change my mind about them in their everyday business practices? Not in the least. Will I become a Walmart customer because of their humanitarian efforts? Nope. Will I go to Hell? Most likely, but not because George doesn't like my viewpoint.

    I believe in the United States of America choice is one of our God given rights...and it is clearly within my rights to not shop at WalMart and to point out clearly to those that do why I choose not to.

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    Why are many of you just picking on Wal-Mart for giving to the relief effort?
    Oh, yeah; that was the title of the thread.
    George; I know you tried hard to tie in Wal-Mart to the Katrina disaster and you make very good talking points about them exceeding several of our "allies" in real dollars, but there has been little tie-in since the opening volley to Hurricane Katrina.
    If you want to bash Wal-Mart, could you at least MENTION Hurricane Katrina; even as an after-thought?
    And be careful; some almost got personal. WT has said they will shut it down and suspend offenders for 7 days the first time. Permanent for the second. I think they are serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefReason
    Why are many of you just picking on Wal-Mart for giving to the relief effort?
    Oh, yeah; that was the title of the thread.
    George; I know you tried hard to tie in Wal-Mart to the Katrina disaster and you make very good talking points about them exceeding several of our "allies" in real dollars, but there has been little tie-in since the opening volley to Hurricane Katrina.
    If you want to bash Wal-Mart, could you at least MENTION Hurricane Katrina; even as an after-thought?
    And be careful; some almost got personal. WT has said they will shut it down and suspend offenders for 7 days the first time. Permanent for the second. I think they are serious.
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    Please don't get me wrong. I do not bash WalMart. I have been defending them from day one. Their relief contributions are up to over $23 million. My initial "sucks" comment was sarcastic. I am geniunely impressed by their response. I don't make it a habit to shop at WalMart, but I will try to patronize them a little more following this.

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    Ok....I do believe this thread has now inspired me to the point where I will save alot of money and head to my local Walmart to shop in the dead horse department .....

    PS...is that deptmartment next to the toy dept or the grocery's?

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    George:
    I know you weren't bashing them.
    "You" wasn't you.
    "You" was "them"!
    We DO shop at Wal-Mart.
    Consider it my efforts towards balance of trade.
    Even the Jerry Lewis Telethon for Muscular Dystrophy donated a million dollars to Hurricane Katrina relief.
    Oh; and I have been told by the Illinois departments sending people at the request of FEMA that it is the Wal-Mart stores that are opening up for them, so they can eat and use the restrooms.
    Such spirit in the wake of Katrina.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ameryfd
    Ok....I do believe this thread has now inspired me to the point where I will save alot of money and head to my local Walmart to shop in the dead horse department .....

    PS...is that deptmartment next to the toy dept or the grocery's?
    Neither.
    Look in the hardware section...
    for GLUE.
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    HERE IS A STORY from CNN about aid from other countries.......



    Offers of aid from around the world

    Monday, September 5, 2005; Posted: 7:30 p.m. EDT (23:30 GMT)




    (CNN) -- Countries and international agencies -- including several coping with major adversities themselves -- have offered money and supplies to victims of Hurricane Katrina.

    Allies such as Britain and Germany as well as adversaries such as Cuba and Iran say they are willing to provide resources and manpower to help with the recovery.

    War-wracked Afghanistan and countries slammed by the December tsunami such as India, Thailand and Sri Lanka also offered help.

    In addition, the United Nations, the European Union, the Organization of American States and the International Energy Agency are contributing to the relief effort.

    However, Cuban President Fidel Castro said the United States had not responded to his offer to send more than 1,500 doctors and tons of medicine and supplies as of Sunday night.

    Speaking to doctors in Havana, Castro said: "You could all be there right now lending your services, but 48 hours has passed since we made this offer, and we have received absolutely no response."

    Castro recently refused a U.S. offer of help after Hurricane Dennis killed more than 10 people on the island nation in July.

    Here are some of the offers:

    International agencies:

    A U.N. offer of help has been accepted by the United States, the United Nations said. A U.N. coordination team is consulting with government officials in Washington, and the agency's team "will be based at the newly established USAID Hurricane Katrina Operations Center."


    The International Energy Agency on Friday announced that all of its 26 member countries agreed to make available 60 million barrels of oil and gas products over the next month.


    The International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies said "more than 80 disaster experts from the Red Cross societies of more than 10 countries are already in place or making plans to travel to the United States in response to a call from the American Red Cross."


    NATO said it has been asked by the United States to send emergency relief supplies -- including first aid kits, blankets and food supplies. A NATO liaison officer has been sent to the United States to coordinate aid requests and work with the Federal Emergency Management Agency, according to a NATO statement.


    The European Union has offered to help the United States with any assistance required.


    The Organization of American States, comprised of Latin American countries, has ordered special measures to back rescue and relief efforts and to restore order, and is establishing a fund for Katrina victims.

    Africa

    Nigeria: Africa's most populous nation has pledged $1 million for disaster relief.

    Americas

    Canada was contacted by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services officials to request National Emergency Stockpile System supplies. Requested were "blankets, gloves, gowns, batteries, needles, surgical dressings, bandages, tongue depressors, and bath towels and cloths."


    Cuba: Fidel Castro, an adversary of the United States during his decades in power, has offered at least 26 tons of supplies and mobilized 1,586 doctors experienced in disaster assistance, each of whom would bring 27 pounds of medicine.


    Mexico has offered $1 million and is sending 15 truckloads of water, food and medical supplies via Texas. The Mexican navy has offered to send two ships, two helicopters and 15 amphibious vehicles.


    Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, a vocal critic of the United States, offered to send cheap fuel, humanitarian aid and relief workers to the disaster area.

    Asia

    Afghanistan, where U.S. troops have been battling Islamic militants in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, pledged a $100,000 donation.


    Bangladesh: Prime Minister Khaleda Zia announced a donation of $1 million and said the government "will stand by for extending any help and support which includes sending of military, medical and construction personnel.


    India: The government is offering $5 million to the American Red Cross and donations of essential medicines, water purification systems for household and community level operations, and a medical team.


    Japan has offered to provide $200,000 to the American Red Cross. It is ready to provide up to $300,000 worth of items such as tents, blankets, power generators, portable water tanks and more from a supply depot maintained by the Japanese government in Florida.


    Sri Lanka: The country still recovering from the tsunami offered what it called a "token contribution" of $25,000 through the American Red Cross.


    Thailand: The office of the prime minister confirmed Monday that the Thai government is offering 100 doctors and nurses to go to the United States next week to help with Hurricane Katrina relief efforts.

    Europe

    Britain: A plane carrying rations left Britain Monday morning. Britain has said that other kinds of assistance it might be able to offer "are those which focus on areas of specialist and technical expertise, such as medical, urban search and rescue, water management, oil and gas, utilities (water, electricity), port handling, disaster management and emergency response."


    France: It has offered a wide range of supplies and services from its mainland and the French Antilles, relatively close to the affected regions. One French non-governmental organization that specializes in restoring phone lines and Internet service is ready to send a team. Veolia Equipment, which has facilities in Louisiana, has offered to make its water management resources available.


    Germany: The government has offered a wide range of assistance, including evacuation by air, medical services, transportation services, water treatment capabilities, assistance in searching for victims, vaccination teams and supplies, and emergency shelter.


    Italy: A plane carrying aid left Rome Sunday night headed toward the United States.


    Spain: A six-member Spanish Red Cross delegation is traveling to the United States to assess the needs of hurricane victims and coordinate with the American Red Cross on what Spain can provide in coming days and weeks.


    Sweden: Rescue Authority said it was on standby to supply water purifying equipment, health care supplies and emergency shelters if needed.

    Middle East

    Bahrain: $5 million donation to assist with relief.


    Iran: Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza-Asefi said Sunday his country is willing to help, if "there is a need for such relief assistance." The aid would be given through the Red Crescent Society, he told reporters.


    Israel: Offers medical assistance, such as personnel, equipment and medicines.


    Kuwait: Government has asked parliament to approve an emergency aid package of $500 million in humanitarian aid and petroleum. "We as Kuwaitis feel that we must stand alongside our friends to alleviate this humanitarian hardship," Minister of Energy Sheikh Ahmad Al-Fahd said in a statement to the Kuwait News Agency.


    Qatar: Offers $100 million to assist in the humanitarian crisis triggered by Hurricane Katrina.

    Other nations that have offered help include Austria, Australia, Bahamas, Belgium, China, Colombia, Dominica, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Greece, Guatemala, Guyana, Hungary, Jamaica, Lithuania, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Paraguay, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, South Korea, Switzerland, United Arab Emirates and Venezuela, according to the U.S. State Department.
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    "Mexico has offered $1 million and is sending 15 truckloads of water, food and medical supplies via Texas. The Mexican navy has offered to send two ships, two helicopters and 15 amphibious vehicles."

    Yeah, but I was always told not to drink the water in mexico, is it a trap?

    On a serious note. I find it astonishing that the middle eastern countries are donating so much when all you here about on the news is how much the middle eastern countries don't want our presence. (would the media lie??)

    "Kuwait: Government has asked parliament to approve an emergency aid package of $500 million in humanitarian aid and petroleum. "We as Kuwaitis feel that we must stand alongside our friends to alleviate this humanitarian hardship," Minister of Energy Sheikh Ahmad Al-Fahd said in a statement to the Kuwait News Agency.


    Qatar: Offers $100 million to assist in the humanitarian crisis triggered by Hurricane Katrina. "

    Grant it these are 2 allied countries, but these 2 small countries are realy stepping up. I realize we bailed out kuwait and they might see it as returning a favor, but who would think $500 mil.. Well anyway good job to those that help. And for the others, we'll see when it's your turn.

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    only thing i bought from walmart, a package of thick white boot socks...
    prices were cool on a lotta stuff....but not a walmart type of guy.


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    No this is astounding:
    Bangladesh: Prime Minister Khaleda Zia announced a donation of $1 million and said the government "will stand by for extending any help and support which includes sending of military, medical and construction personnel.

    Japan has offered to provide $200,000 to the American Red Cross. It is ready to provide up to $300,000 worth of items such as tents, blankets, power generators, portable water tanks and more from a supply depot maintained by the Japanese government in Florida.
    One of the poorest country in the world, Bangladesh. One of the richest countries in the world, Japan. This doesn't make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI
    No this is astounding:


    One of the poorest country in the world, Bangladesh. One of the richest countries in the world, Japan. This doesn't make sense.
    Japan downplays view its pledged hurricane aid is small


    Tuesday, September 6, 2005 at 15:52 JST
    TOKYO The Japanese government is ready to provide more aid for people affected by Hurricane Katrina in southern U.S. states if requested by the United States, Vice Foreign Minister Shotaro Yachi said Monday, dismissing the view that the amount pledged by Tokyo pales in comparison with other donors.

    "We will do our utmost" to help the hurricane victims if requested by the United States in the near future, Yachi said, dismissing criticism that the amount of aid worth $500,000 announced last week is smaller than those offered by other countries as well as Japan's private sector. "The aid package the Japanese government announced Friday did not mean we will not offer any more aid."


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    Japan gov't, firms join relief effort for U.S. hurricane victims
    Saturday, September 3, 2005 at 06:53 JST
    TOKYO The Japanese government will provide $200,000 in cash to the American Red Cross and offer up to $300,000 worth of tents, blankets and other supplies for victims of Hurricane Katrina, Chief Cabinet Secretary Hiroyuki Hosoda said Friday.

    Japanese automakers have also announced emergency aid packages, with Toyota Motor Corp pledging a total of $5 million to support activities of the Red Cross and the Friedkin Disaster Relief Fund. Nissan Motor Co said it and its employees will offer a total of $750,000 and 50 pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles for Red Cross workers. The Japanese Red Cross Society decided to provide $200,000 to its U.S. counterpart. (Kyodo News)


    though its is small compared to some others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI
    Please don't get me wrong. I do not bash WalMart. I have been defending them from day one. Their relief contributions are up to over $23 million. My initial "sucks" comment was sarcastic. I am geniunely impressed by their response. I don't make it a habit to shop at WalMart, but I will try to patronize them a little more following this.
    You can add a couple of more million to that:

    http://forums.firehouse.com/showthread.php?t=73556


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    A couple of Walmart stories

    http://biz.yahoo.com/bizwk/050907/nf...b017.html?.v=1

    http://www.triggernews.com/ap/20050905/71e8-4326.html

    So far, Wal-Mart said that it has contributed $17 million to relief efforts, including $15 million to the Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund. The company also has donated about $3 million in merchandise, including more than 100 trailer loads to emergency relief organizations, services and shelters.


    The Walton Family Foundation has donated $8 million to the Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund and $7 million to relief organizations like the Salvation Army, America's Second Harvest and The Foundation for the Mid-South.

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    Default I'm guilty

    I don't like admitting sometimes, when I haven't been nice. I'm a nice guy, but I do get on my soapbox sometimes. Okay, I'm saying that I haven't been a big supporter of Wal-Mart. It doesn't matter why. I'm sure I thought I had reasons. I'm also guilty of calling them by a slang term I learned from others (didn't start it, just borrowed it). Okay, I'm waving their flag now. Not only did they have some damaged properties, and secondary damage from looting....they opened where they could, to get things going locally as some stories reported. Dadburnit (borrowed that from Hoss), I'm chokin' up. I'm going to aisle four for tissues!

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    [QUOTE=GeorgeWendtCFI][QUOTE=FTMPTB15]
    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI
    Sooooo.....

    We should prohibit all Web Shopping sites because they offer goods at low prices and can drive mom and pop out of business? We should dismantle Home Depot. Lowe's Petco, Staples, KMart and all the other superstores because they offer low prices? Get real. It's basic economics.

    Damn. You caught me. After I started this thread yesterday, WalMart stock went up 30-40 points just because of this thread. It's true! Neil Cavuto said so!

    Please.

    BTW, I own 0 shares.
    That's right....all your stock is tied up in oil!

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    [QUOTE=parafire81][QUOTE=GeorgeWendtCFI]
    Quote Originally Posted by FTMPTB15

    That's right....all your stock is tied up in oil!
    You want to explain this? It makes no sense.

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    [QUOTE=GeorgeWendtCFI][QUOTE=parafire81]
    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI

    You want to explain this? It makes no sense.
    George:
    I think he just called you "independently wealthy"!
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