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    Default USFA Request for 1000 "2" FF Teams !!!

    Does anyone out there have any information in regards to this request put out by the USFA regarding the request for 1000 "2" FF Teams to respond and act as FEMA representatives for a 30 day deployment? Is anyone applying? What information have you been provided by FEMA when you called the phone number they provided on the request.

    http://www.usfa.fema.gov/about/media/katrina.shtm

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    International Association of Fire Chiefs
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    E-mail: firehire@dhs.gov

    Updated: 01 September 2005 at 2:30 p.m.

    FEMA/DHS Requests Fire Service Emergency Assistance
    Urgent need for 1,000 two-person fire fighter teams


    Fairfax, VA, September 1, 2005. The Federal Emergency Management Association (FEMA) is calling on the nation's fire service to send 1,000 two-person firefighter teams to assist citizens affected by Hurricane Katrina in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama.

    FEMA has asked the International Association of Fire Chiefs (IAFC), the Metro Section of the IAFC/NFPA and the International Association of Fire Fighters (IAFF) to communicate this need for assistance to the fire service in order to help FEMA respond to disaster recovery efforts.

    Due to FEMA/DHS policies and requirements, the initial teams dispatched to the Gulf Coast region are limited to career fire fighters, and must be selected and approved by the chief of the fire department. Teams must be physically fit, self sufficient and capable of working in austere conditions for an extended period of time while sleeping on the ground and eating MREs. In addition fire fighters are asked to bring carry-on baggage only - backpacks are recommended. Teams will be working for at least a 30-day period.

    "Our thoughts and prayers are with those in the nation's Gulf Coast during this terrible aftermath of Katrina, and our union's fire fighters stand ready to assist in the disaster recovery efforts in the Gulf Coast region," says IAFF General President Harold Schaitberger, who made his way to the areas devastated by Hurricane Katrina September 1. "My members are prepared to help wherever needed and will also bring compassion and support to those impacted by the wrath of Katrina."

    In addition, the Volunteer & Combination Officers Section (VCOS) of the IAFC is working with FEMA to provide the same opportunities to volunteer firefighters in this and in future disaster situations. "While we understand why this decision was necessary due to the absolute urgency of the situation and the need to get these teams in place as soon as possible, it is essential that FEMA/DHS use the volunteer fire service as well, and the IAFC and VCOS are working to see that volunteer fire fighters are included in this important effort," says Chief Bill Killen, president of the IAFC.

    "I know our nation's fire chiefs will answer this call, just as we know that the fire chiefs of these affected states would help the citizens of our towns in a moment of crisis. Our prayers are with the thousands of citizens who are suffering and especially for those responders who are working to alleviate the destruction, pain and suffering," says Chief Killen.

    Individual team members will need to register through the National Emergency Training Center's normal course registration process. FEMA will accept the fire chief's certification on the application forms as the equivalent to a federal background check on the individual team members. Jurisdictions will be reimbursed for the teams, and teams will be provided brief initial training in Atlanta as Community Relations Response Teams to prepare them to assist citizens in the disaster area.

    For details, please read the message below from Chief R. David Paulison, US Fire Administrator.


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    U.S. Department of Homeland Security
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    REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE FROM THE UNITED STATES FIRE SERVICE IN RESPONSE TO HURRICANE KATRINA

    Our Nation is faced with the most catastrophic natural disaster in modern times, and we are calling upon the Nation's fire service to aid the affected citizens and communities. This is the United States Fire Administration's initial request to mobilize members of the fire service within Federal guidelines.

    The current need is for 1,000 two-person teams. A department may offer more than one two-person team. These people will be deployed as a team, and we prefer that they know one another prior to deployment.

    This initial request is for full-time career firefighters that are employed by municipal government and sponsored by that municipality because of the way that salaries and expenses will be reimbursed. We will include the volunteer fire service in the next phase. They must be:

    Physically capable of performing manual tasks under severe conditions;
    Experienced in working with minimum supervision;
    Capable of living in austere, severe living conditions with minimal or no creature comforts for a period of at least 30 days;
    Free of medical condition(s) that would prevent them from working in these conditions for this period of time; and,
    Able to work within the ICS, provide basic first aid, and follow orders.


    The work is non-operational community relations focused activities that consist of direct outreach to persons in the affected areas. They will assist victims in understanding how they will go about the process of getting Federal assistance, distributing information, providing minimal first-aid, and taking reports. The work will be outside, exposed to the elements and will require significant walking.

    FEMA will notify the Chief of Department, and selected applicants will be notified by their Chief of Department that they have been selected. NO ONE SHOULD DEPLOY WITHOUT NOTIFICATION OF ACCEPTANCE FROM FEMA. Selected applicants will report to a central location in the Atlanta, Georgia area for training and further deployment. Travel to the Atlanta, Georgia area will be per government authorization in a manner specified upon acceptance. Acceptance information will also cover lodging and other related expense reimbursement information.

    APPLICATION PROCESS

    The application process is the exact same process as applying for a National Fire Academy resident course. Applicants will complete FEMA Form 75-5A (short form) general application which can be found at:

    http://www.usfa.fema.gov/training/nf...nfa-abt1c.shtm

    In box 12a. "Course Code and Title" the applicant should enter "COMMUNITY RELATIONS DEPLOYMENT"and "L282". In Box #21, please fill in the names of BOTH team members. No other course information is required on the application, but everything else must be completed. This is the form that will be used for reimbursement to the department or jurisdiction. Additional salary / personnel information will be required upon acceptance. The application must be fully completed and signed by the Chief of the Department or the Chief's designee. The application should be faxed to 301-447-1234. A scanned completed/signed application can be emailed to: firehire@dhs.gov

    The department must submit two applications (one team). Single individual applications will not be accepted.

    We will notify the first 1000 teams of their acceptance and process any additional applications in the event that they are needed in the future.

    Submission of an application DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE TEAM HAS BEEN ACCEPTED. Acceptance is a second, separate process. The Chief of the Department or designee will be notified of the teams' acceptance, and provided deployment information.

    If you have any questions or need additional information, please call 301-447-7250.

    INFORMATION FOR THE CHIEF OF DEPARTMENT

    Your signature on the application represents your approval of the activity and deployment of the applicant team, as well as confirmation of the following:

    The suitability of the applicants to perform the duties listed under the severe conditions listed above;
    They have passed your department's employment background check;
    They are familiar with and have demonstrated ability to work within the Incident Command System;
    They are capable of providing basic first aid and following orders.

    The concept is that your team will be able to work independently under tough conditions, being provided only food, water and perhaps rustic shelter.

    FEMA will reimburse the department or jurisdiction as necessary for the salary of each team. It is the responsibility of each team member to retain and submit receipts for other mission related expenses.

    Submitting an application does not mean that the person is accepted. Acceptance is a separate process. Do not allow anyone from your department to deploy without official follow-up confirmation. That confirmation will provide specific detailed information.

    If one member of the team drops out, then the other member of the team will either not deploy or be sent back home. The Chief of Department will be notified of the teams' acceptance and provided the deployment information.


    INFORMATION FOR THE TEAM BEING DEPLOYED

    Do not self-deploy. If you are accepted, you will be given specific further directions from your Chief of Department.

    Each team should bring a basic medical jump kit (bandages, BP set) to provide minimal first aid. You will be provided government ID in the Atlanta, Georgia area.

    You will be deployed with another member of your organization as a team and will be working with that person for the duration.

    Following are items which you must bring with you:

    sleeping bag;
    personal hygiene necessities:
    medications;
    insect repellent;
    sun screen;
    rain gear;
    flashlight and batteries.

    We cannot guarantee that you will have a vehicle or a means to transport or store gear. FEMA will provide you with FEMA shirts. Remember that you may have to carry with you everything that you bring for the entire time. Finally, please ensure that members of your family can function without your presence for at least 30 days.
    Stay Safe and Well Out There....

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    Community Relations..... as in you will be passing out flyers telling the victims where to call to register for assistance.
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    THEY NEED FIREFIGHTERS AND PARAMEDICS NOW. I understand the need to not self dispatch..But for gods sake DISPATCH SOMEBODY. You could get an army of firefighters there in a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MIKEYLIKESIT
    THEY NEED FIREFIGHTERS AND PARAMEDICS NOW. I understand the need to not self dispatch..But for gods sake DISPATCH SOMEBODY. You could get an army of firefighters there in a day.

    Exactly my point. I completely and utterly understand the no freelancing. but christ....ive volunteered for mississippi already, havent heard anything.

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    The response to this disaster from a federal level has been woeful, can you imagine what would happen if a similar event occured in a city the size of New York, LA, Chicago or Toronto, Are there enough resources available nationally to deal with it? Why is the apparatus to deal with an event of this magnitude not already in place. Just what does FEMA do between emergencies.

    I realize that this event is massive, but a larger more complex one could occur tomorrow. Where are the plans and the apparatus to handle it. In the aftermath there are a lot of questions that need to be answered. But right now, today there are thousands of people in need of help
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    I know that I'm a member of a 13-member career division where one member is in recruit school and another has been deployed to the gulf through the national guard. I volunteered to go even before the request for two-person teams went out... But if we send two guys, then vacation is cancelled for all other members as we'll be down to minimum of three per shift staffing.

    Personally, I still want to go. Regardless of the work we'll be doing -- helping people isn't all about digging folks out of rubble -- I want to contribute. But I've gotten the "we must protect our city" guilt trip speech more than once.

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    I work for 2 EMS services and a fire dept. Im also part of "Fema's" Disaster Medical Assistance Team and I have been trying to get there and havent got deployed by anyone. Fema told me I couldnt go because my id card got lost in the mail. Its Crazy! Firefighter/EMT, no family to tend after, I can go for as long as needed and I'm still sitting at home. Its disgusting.
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    Bureaucracy is a necessary thing, unfortunately it has no idea how to grasp the term EMERGENCY
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    Just think. They had a week to prepare for this. They new the storm was heading in that direction and that it was packing potentially devestating winds with the potential of severe damage. Imagine what it would be like if they had no warning? What if this was a terrorist attack instead? This is the reaction with a weeks warning???? I understand about not self dispatching, However, this is not working. God help us if we are ever attacked again--on a large scale.

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    Our department is getting a team together as we speak. Our community officials gave their approval yesterday. To everyone there and to those who are going, "BE SAFE."

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    Default FEMA now requesting an additional 2,000 from the Volunteer ranks

    FROM FEMA



    REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE FROM THE UNITED STATES VOLUNTEER FIRE SERVICE IN RESPONSE TO HURRICANE KATRINA



    Our Nation is faced with the most catastrophic natural disaster in modern times, and we are calling upon the Nation's fire service to aid the affected citizens and communities. This is the United States Fire Administration's second request to mobilize members of the fire service within Federal guidelines.



    The current need is for 1,000 two-person teams to serve as FEMA's community relations representatives in response to Hurricane Katrina. Each department may offer more than one two-person team. These people will be deployed as a team, and we prefer that they know one another prior to deployment.



    This request requires volunteer firefighters who are members in good standing in a community based volunteer fire department. The volunteer firefighter will be hired as a FEMA Disaster Assistance Employee with an initial appointment not to exceed 120 days. The rate of pay will be $23.41 per hour regular time and $29.59 overtime. They must be:

    * Physically capable of performing manual tasks under severe conditions;
    * Able to obtain a favorable suitability determination;
    * Experienced in working with minimum supervision;
    * Capable of living in austere, severe living conditions with minimal or no creature comforts for a period of at least 30 days;
    * Are members in good standing in their department with an established record of recent emergency response and able to perform appropriately in a national response;
    * Free of medical condition(s) that would prevent them from working in these conditions for this period of time; and,
    * Able to work within the ICS, provide basic first aid, and follow orders.



    The work is non-operational community relations focused activities that consist of direct outreach to persons in the affected areas. They will assist victims in understanding how they will go about the process of getting Federal assistance, distributing information, providing minimal first-aid, and taking reports. The work will be outside, exposed to the elements and will require significant walking.



    FEMA will notify the Chief of Department, and selected applicants will be notified by their Chief of Department that they have been selected. NO ONE SHOULD DEPLOY WITHOUT NOTIFICATION OF ACCEPTANCE FROM FEMA. Selected applicants will report to a central location in the Atlanta, Georgia area for training and further deployment. Travel to the Atlanta, Georgia area will be per government authorization in a manner specified upon acceptance. Acceptance information will also cover lodging and other related expense reimbursement information.



    APPLICATION PROCESS



    The application process is the exact same process as applying for a National Fire Academy resident course. Applicants will complete FEMA Form 75-5A (short form) general application which can be found at:



    http://www.usfa.fema.gov/training/nf...nfa-abt1c.shtm



    In box 12a. "Course Code and Title" the applicant should enter "COMMUNITY RELATIONS DEPLOYMENT"and "L282". In Box #21, please fill in the names of BOTH team members. No other course information is required on the application, but everything else must be completed. Additional personnel information will be required upon acceptance. The application must be fully completed and signed by the Chief of the Department or the Chief's designee. The application should be faxed to 301-447-1234. A scanned completed/signed application can be emailed to: firehire@dhs.gov.



    The department must submit two applications (one team). Single individual applications will not be accepted.



    We will notify the first 1000 teams of their acceptance and process any additional applications in the event that they are needed in the future.



    Submission of an application DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE TEAM HAS BEEN ACCEPTED. Acceptance is a second, separate process. The Chief of the Department or designee will be notified of the teams' acceptance, and provided deployment information.



    If you have any questions or need additional information you can find more information at www.usfa.fema.gov; email firehire@dhs.gov or call 301-447-7250.



    INFORMATION FOR THE CHIEF OF DEPARTMENT



    Your signature on the application represents your approval of the activity and deployment of the applicant team, as well as confirmation of the following:



    * The suitability of the applicants to perform the duties listed under the severe conditions listed above;
    * They have passed a criminal background check and are able to obtain a favorable suitability determination;
    * They are members in good standing in the department with an established record of recent emergency response and able to perform appropriately in a national response;
    * They are familiar with and have demonstrated ability to work within the Incident Command System;
    * They are capable of providing basic first aid and following orders.



    The concept is that your team will be able to work independently under tough conditions, being provided only food, water and perhaps rustic shelter.



    It is the responsibility of each team member to retain and submit receipts for other mission related expenses.



    Submitting an application does not mean that the person is accepted. Acceptance is a separate process. Do not allow anyone from your department to deploy without official follow-up confirmation. That confirmation will provide specific detailed information.



    If one member of the team drops out, then the other member of the team will either not deploy or be sent back home.



    The Chief of Department will be notified of the teams' acceptance and provided the deployment information.



    INFORMATION FOR THE TEAM BEING DEPLOYED



    Do not self-deploy. If you are accepted, you will be given specific further directions from your Chief of Department.



    Each team should bring a basic medical jump kit (bandages, BP set) to provide minimal first aid.



    You will be provided government ID in the Atlanta, Georgia area.



    You will be deployed with another member of your organization as a team and will be working with that person for the duration.



    Following are items which you must bring with you:

    * sleeping bag;
    * personal hygiene necessities:
    * medications;
    * insect repellent;
    * sun screen;
    * rain gear;
    * flashlight and batteries.



    We cannot guarantee that you will have a vehicle or a means to transport or store gear.

    FEMA will provide you with FEMA shirts. Remember that you may have to carry with you everything that you bring for the entire time.



    Finally, please ensure that members of your family can function without your presence for at least 30 days.

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    Two days ago we were told in an official departmental order to not "self-dispatch".
    The request for team members, through the IAFC came through yesterday, and as of today we had 120 members volunteer. Of these 120, approximately 40 have had their information forwarded to DHS/FEMA.
    Something is happening, and it's happening fairly quickly.
    Several of our departmental members who are national guard helicopter pilots were deployed, as of Wednesday.

    We need to remember accountability, and functionality, as well as tending to our own communities. No one will do any good if they circumvent the chain of command.
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    Governor Blanco has stated she requested FIREFIGHTERS for fire suppression duty. On another note, I had contacted the union via e-mail earlier today and they replied, asking for contact numbers from me. This is going to be a long process and each of us will be able to do our part to help these people out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by METROMEDIC82
    I work for 2 EMS services and a fire dept. Im also part of "Fema's" Disaster Medical Assistance Team and I have been trying to get there and havent got deployed by anyone. Fema told me I couldnt go because my id card got lost in the mail. Its Crazy! Firefighter/EMT, no family to tend after, I can go for as long as needed and I'm still sitting at home. Its disgusting.
    Red Cross in Iowa is deploying FD medics (and begging for more). Contact Red Cross.

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    The work is non-operational community relations focused activities that consist of direct outreach to persons in the affected areas. They will assist victims in understanding how they will go about the process of getting Federal assistance, distributing information, providing minimal first-aid, and taking reports. The work will be outside, exposed to the elements and will require significant walking.

    READ BETWEEN THE LINES FOLKS. NO RESCUE. NO FIREFIGHTING. NO SH*T!
    THIS IS TO HELP FEMA AS THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOLKS TO DO IT.

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    Devil you are right. That being said , someone has to do it and this job aint always glitz and glamour, hoses and rescues. Help in anyway you can. Yeah there is a lot of damage and a lot of dead and dying. But people have lost their families, houses, all of their personel belongings, jobs and friends. They have NOTHING. If going down there to help hand out flyers, water, toliet paper or for that fact even cleaning toliets is going to make their lives easier, get to. It is time for americans to step up and help their own. Disaster has struck this country yet again and we will rise to the occasion, with the help of selfless americans. Also there realy is no way for fema to have enought people in reserve to help this large amount of people. There are Millions of people in dire need right now, not hundreds or thousands. Not just a couple of towns but, 2 or 3 states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildog4
    The work is non-operational community relations focused activities that consist of direct outreach to persons in the affected areas. They will assist victims in understanding how they will go about the process of getting Federal assistance, distributing information, providing minimal first-aid, and taking reports. The work will be outside, exposed to the elements and will require significant walking.

    READ BETWEEN THE LINES FOLKS. NO RESCUE. NO FIREFIGHTING. NO SH*T!
    THIS IS TO HELP FEMA AS THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOLKS TO DO IT.
    Right. They need Clerks, Then hire Clerks. But the need right now is for help with Putting out Fires, EMT Services, and other EMERGENCY OPERATIONS. FEMA's head is buried so deep in the sand, I don't think it will survive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods
    Right. They need Clerks, Then hire Clerks. But the need right now is for help with Putting out Fires, EMT Services, and other EMERGENCY OPERATIONS. FEMA's head is buried so deep in the sand, I don't think it will survive.
    Amen to that!
    Why are they so busy setting up crews to hand out paperwork when rescue/recovery/EMS...etc. is what's REALLY needed now?
    Yes, I know there's a need to get this info out to the poeple, but it shouldn't be placed above RESCUEING them 1st...
    The comments made by me are my opinions only, not of the Fire and EMS services I am affiliated with.

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    It seems a MASSIVE waste of resources to use the fire service to hand out flyers. It makes no sense like much of the way that FEMA and the local govt is handling this.
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    If you don't like the guidelines for the response that is requested, don't apply. Personally, I like the $$$ that FEMA is paying for the 30-day deployment and am considering applying. You get to go help out your fellow Americans after the Worst Natural Disaster in American History and they give you money too. After the fiasco with hundreds of VFD's sending people to NYC on 9-11 undispatched, do you think FEMA or DHS is going to just say "ok, have firetruck will travel!"?

    FEMA and the Government isn't totally to blame here. These people had a week to leave the cities.
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    It's interesting.. they are already preparing to hand-out flyers and other information. If they are not careful, they will not need to hand out many of those flyers at all because the people would not have been rescued in time because they (FEMA) was preoccupied with hiring non-operational staff instead of focusing at the overwhelming need to have additional OPERATIONAL staff dispatched to assist with Rescue/Recovery efforts. Seems they are putting the cart before the horse.
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    Default Background to the FEMA request

    This is an email sent by Fairfax County (VA) Fire and Rescue Chief Michael Neuhard:

    From: Neuhard, Mike
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    You may have heard about the FEMA's soliciting firefighters to work as Disaster Employees (1,000 teams of 2 firefighters). These people will not be performing firefighter duties. They will become temporary FEMA Community Relations personnel, doing a job FEMA does in every disaster.

    Historically, FEMA hires Community Relations disaster employees at every disaster. This time, due to the constraints of doing background investigations, FEMA made the decision to hire firefighters that already have gone through a criminal background investigation. As mentioned, the firefighters would be hired as federal employees and deployed to assist with the FEMA recovery efforts.

    While the request is honorable, we need to be mindful of the Department's current resource and personnel commitments in support of the USAR deployment and the distinct possibility that may be asked to support additional Countywide relief efforts.

    In addition, we are seeking and receiving addition details concerning how the personnel would be deployed, how they would be supported in the field, and how they would be compensated. We also, have safety, health, supervision, and support concerns.

    For this reason the Department cannot at this time support FEMA request for firefighters to work as Disaster Relief Employees.

    In the weeks ahead, if FEMA's needs firefighters to act as relief workers and the extent of the Department's and County's relief efforts are known, we may reconsider this request.

    Your patience and consideration of this information is appreciated.

    Chief Neuhard
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    Fairfax and Miami-Dade are the original international search-and-rescue teams who work as State Department (Office of Foreign Disaster Assistance) contract employees when on international missions and FEMA contractors on domestic missions. There are about a dozen Fairfax and Miami-Dade folks who are contract employees on every single USAR activation.

    They have the most experience in dealing with federally-directed disaster response. Some of the original task force members have retired from the fire department and continue to serve as full-time federal employees or contractors.

    Like everyone else, they are ready to help when requested. If you listened to the "old school" USAR guys who were in Florida last year, the reorganization of FEMA placed a couple of layers of bureucracy between the USAR teams and the feds. Many of the federal employees overseeing disaster response are not very experienced in emergency operations - a Miami-Dade sector chief described the difficulty in sending the 12 hour situation reports (expected as an email or fax) when he was three hours from the nearest source of any type of phone service.

    This note from Local 2068's bulletin board provides a perspective:

    I do not post to this very often but here is my .02 worth. We sent "only" a 34 person team because that is what FEMA told us to do, it had nothing to do with what we as a dept. were capable of. Chief Neuhard did the right thing when FEMA asked a couple of days later what/if any could all of the teams add to the already in place responses, he stated whatever you need. Which translates into rostering up a complete type I deployment in addition to the already in place type III. This is unprecedented in USAR, no other team, to my knowledge, has the resources to field this large of a deployment......kudos to the Chief.

    I too would like for all of us still here to be afforded the opportunity to help out, how about the union stepping up and quickly organizing a fund raiser of sorts......or better yet Mr. Lewis, how about all the money we collect this weekend going down to the gulf coast, in turn we will raise more money than ever for MDA later in the fall...? I am sure there are enough of us that we could beat the streets for a week for MDA if you sent everything you make this weekend down south......just a thought.....


    EJ 14-C

    ____________

    Mike
    always proud of my sisters and brothers who serve in the "Republic of Fairfax"
    (and, despite EJ's assertion, very mindful of the USAR teams in Los Angeles, FDNY, Phoenix, Miami-Dade and others that have the same resources and desire to help.)

    Michael J. Ward
    Assistant Professor
    EMS Management
    Instructor - EHS 173 Special Operations
    The George Washington University
    mikeward@gwu.edu
    Last edited by MikeWard; 09-04-2005 at 11:12 AM.

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    Thumbs down

    I agree with most of you (fustrated from the lack there of and urge to assist). Seems like FEMA is in the clean-up stage and we're not even at first base yet.

    From an emergency services worker, this is absolutely embarrasing. There doesn't seem to be any organization from either the local, state or federal level. Heck, I doesn't even appear that IMS has been implimented (so much for all that TRAINING they have been shoving down our throats). It's hard to tell who's in charge (if anyone is).

    When this first started, FEMA sent a request "no freelancing". Understandable, there has to be a controlled effort to handle this, but it seems FEMA is lost or has no clue. The request for 1000, 2-member teams to go as advisors (hand out forms and explain to people how to apply for aid), is bass-ackwards. First, why do you need firefighters to hand out forms?? Secretaries could do that. Second, we (fire/police/ems) have not yet removed people/victims from harms way, that should be a PRIORITY before shoving forms down their throat.

    WE NEED TO BRING "CALM TO CHAOS" before anything else happens.

    I am more than willing to help our brothers (not hand out forms). If requested, I would leave immediately to go relieve our brothers so that they can "catch their breath". How many of them have seen home or even know if their families are o.k. since Katrina hit???

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    is the deployment for 30 or 120 days?

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