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    Default Act NOW, DON'T wait.

    As I stated in another post,

    There are literally thousands of senior citizens who have trees down on their houses. There are plenty of tree cutters coming in from all over to cut for money. A miniscule number are doing anything without being paid handome sums.


    Let's get something done and quit mousing around.
    There's people suffering.
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    Default Contact Numbers for information and need

    Tonight the local newscast showed a sheriff asking for volunteer help.
    Video at: www.wtok.com

    There IS a need for your help.
    I will post more as it comes in.

    The following numbers can be used to contact those who need help:

    Lauderdale Emergency Management Agency - 601-482-9852
    Clarke County Sheriff Office - 601-776-5252

    Go to WWW.MSEMA.ORG for info on what personnel are being called for by the State.

    Again, I urge you to contact local VFD's, Sheriff's, and EMA's. They know more about whether they need people to come and help out.
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    Default Angry And Frusterated

    as a volunteer i cannot watch nor can i turn off the news lately ive downloaded the fema forms then found your thread. who can cut all ties and go to help? if it was my house it would be me of course but my work would say sure, go, good luck and by the way your unemployed. im donating and water drives etc
    aside from that how can i help from conn?

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    I just spoke to someone from MEMA and they gave me two numbers if you would like to go down there, they also said they will fax a authorization/request letter so you would not be self-dispatching which we should not do.

    The numbers are
    601-987-1504
    866-230-8903
    They start again @ 08:00 central time

    I HAVE NOT CALLED THE ABOVER NUMBERS SO I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY WILL SAY.
    Thanks

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    Default thanks for the #s

    i will call tomorrow and today i spent the holiday unloading trucks at our biggest armory in hartford it made me feel really good and i was much less frusterated

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    Default I have called the 601 ph#

    SteveO,

    I called the phone number that you posted and spoke to Leanne who was very helpful. What they are asking is that someone email jjennings@mdps.state.ms.us with:

    - Contact Information
    - What Unit could respond
    - Resources you could bring (apparatus, equip, food, etc)
    - How long the unit is willing to stay
    - Needs from outside (i.e. fuel, housing, food, etc)

    Make sure you're as descriptive as possible (whether you could bring a command post or not, how many SCBA bottles, anything you could think of)


    MarionMedic

    I left a VM for you this a.m. I know there are at least a few of us ready to come down and help you guys out. Give me a call (917-817-7780) or respond to this post.

    Trying to help,
    Ian

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    Default I tried the 601 # too

    I too tried the 601 # this AM and got "All circuits busy"... Just sent you an email. I have a group from my church that is willing and able to come down this weekend, cut trees, deliver water, food, whatever. We could be there by Fri afternoon. Men, women... We can bring chainsaws, etc. Send me an email with a list of what supplies and if you still need help, where you would want us to go, etc. I included my cell and work #'s.

    We would be glad to sleep on the floor, with sleeping bags. Let me know of anything else you need, and we can bring a van load, trailers and SUV's (would needs directions.) Sooner you let me know, sooner I can generate a sign-up sheet of volunteers and get transportation lined up and get some of my FD's involved in donating some supplies to come down.

    Thanks, hope I can help ya'll out. (BTW, sent ya an email last night...sent ya a check this AM to buy some water or whatever you need for your guys or your dept.) Stay safe! ~Alana
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    Default Help In Ms

    we sent a "footprint" team down last weekend to help set up a camp and then to call back to indiana to tell us what they needed in MS. we were informed today by the state fire marshall that our team was on there way back. they were told that no firefighters or anybody needed any help. therefore no ff from indiana will be responding to help replace any other people in MS. if anybody still needs help down there let me know and i can get you a number to the state fire marshall from indiana.

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    You know VFD 268 that is the same problem that we are having. I am a member of a joint emergency team with Lexington County here in South Carolina. We are comprised of 9 members that are crosstrained in fire service, EMS, and law enforcment. We are the on-duty special operations guys for the fire serice and law enforcment. All of us are certified fire fighters, haz mat technicians, EMTs or Paramedics, and certified law enforcment officers. Most of us are also certified in various technical and heavy rescue areas. We have been on standby since the storm hit. It is just amazing to us that you see on CNN or any other news show that the mayors and "grunts" on the ground are SCREAMING for help and relief, but FEMA is constantly telling us that no more emergency responders are needed. Then you see FEMA calling for 1000 two man fire fighter teams, and all they are doing is the paperwork footwork for FEMA, talk about a misuse of resources. Our team may not be specialists by any imagination, but we are compitant in our duties. We augment our COBRA team as well, and was going to bring a 16-20 member response when we came. I just can' t understand why you hear one thing on the news and another from FEMA. It is very frustrating here in South Carolina that our fellow brothers and sisters in arms need our help and we are not beeing sent. Some of us have offered to take of vacation time to come out there, but our leave requests have not been authorized yet. This whole thing is just frustrating for all of those wanting to help.

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    Default called mississippi

    well i called the nice lady and told her we are not interested in participating in the FEMA plan but i did leave some info like the others said. she told me someone would contact me but who knows. i was very specific about our capabilities and, why cant FEMA pay the locals 20 plus an hour to hand out flyers?

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    I made some phone calls myself and got the same non-sense. The poor guy on the phone you could tell was probably at the end of his rope. I explained who I was and what I could do. He said that if you're out of state, you have to call your local FEMA office. To which I replied something along the lines of "Oh lord have mercy". His response was "yea, tell me about it." You can tell they need the help we want to give them but it is being beurocraticly blocked. If I lived closer, I would simply drive down myself with a chain saw start helping people unofficially for free. It's ludicrious. I'm sure there are 2,000 random volunteers in this country that would love to fill out FEMA's paperwork for them instead.

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    We heard today that FEMA hasn't turned down help because they didn't need it, but because they are not able to get a handle on all of the help to know where to send help. Sounds like a pretty big problem when big bad FEMA can't figure something as small as utilizing resources out and have all of the two man teams handing out papers for them just because they can pass a back ground check. This is really getting crazy. We did get activated by FEMA to set up a collection point at the Columbia Airport here in SC. Today we received three planes with about 300 evacuees from LA. Talking with some that we recieved they are all saying they are glad we are helping, but the people on the ground need help more.

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    We're going to close this thread. Again, for fire and rescue operational purposes, we strongly discourage people from self dispatching. These efforts it seems are more along the lines of recovery in general, not fire and rescue specific, which is a little different, so we're leaving the contact information, and are reaching out to the poster and others to get more information.

    Here's part of the top story we just added to.

    Captain Patrick Claunch of the Glen, Mississippi Fire Department, said many departments in that state are significantly impacted. Claunch and other members of his department spent a day in Gulfport, and said they have lost three of their 12 stations. The Pass Christian Fire Department lost its headquarters. "There is nothing left but a slab," he said. Firefighters there constructed a make-shift shower out of a CPAT push-pull station.

    "Many of our fellow firefighters have no where to go.," he said. But he also cautioned and stressed that there is no need to self-dispatch to the area. "Right now there are so many departments coming in [to help] there is no where to put them ... There is already enough confusion there."

    "The real help will be needed once stations are rebuilt, which will be weeks ahead," Claunch said.

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    Please pardon that I haven't updated sooner. I'm borrowing a friend's computer and connection to do this now.
    Ours is on the blink still.


    I guess that it was a bad idea to ask for help.
    Everyone is being refused or turned away.
    I can't understand this at all. Just a couple days ago these folks were begging for anyone with arms to come help and now it's like they never said it.
    All I can imagine is that FEMA decided for them??????

    Two gguys showed up at our station today from Dover, New Jersey. I called five Counties and finally found one that said they still were needing help.
    All the others stated that the national guard was there and they were alright now.
    I find it hard to believe that the NG is solving the porblems of VFD's who were "wiped out" only three days ago and screaming for a hand. I hope our building damage will be fixed as fast as these miraculous recovery times indicate.

    I'm going to edit my original post as I cannot provide contacts at this time.
    Please contact the State offices listed in my second post.

    Again, I'm sorry that this plan got stopped dead cold before it got off the ground. I'm at a loss for reasoning why.

    Thanks for your interest and replies,
    Don
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    Don,
    Don't worry about it. Listen, when things calm down some down there, our offer still stands. Next month, in two months, in six months...I can get up a work team from my church of adults, who can take care of anything you need. You let me know. Whenever things are not so 'Checkpoint' down there. We'll be glad to come down there and help. You have my email. Please let me know if you need anything sent down to ya...(I emailed my cell to your email).

    Good Luck & Be Safe...
    Alana Tomlin Denton
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    Thanks to all of you.
    Dixie, I appreciate the offer and will do just that. You'll also have help if you ever need it.

    I'm just disappointed and heartsick at the utter failure of the FedGov in this disaster. And to come in and try to strong-arm the locals by seizing and demanding command is just outright criminally unconstitutional.
    But that's another thread in itself.

    I'm going to make sure my Town knows about what has happened. We have a meeting this coming tuesday. I urge ALL to spread the word too.

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    Don, other than the donations does your department need anything immediately? Could probably get some of my local depts. to get up some stuff and have it mailed down there to ya, if ya need items. As I said in an earlier email (although, am sure you've not had time to check it much!) stuff you can't get down there right now, batteries, duct tape, whatever, let me know...be glad to help out, anyway possible. Just shoot me an email, or post in on here. Again, try and get some rest, thoughts and prayers with your entire department.

    -Alana

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    We're Ok.
    Thank you for your generosity.

    I'm back to school and spending my weekends trying to help as I can down there.
    The Pearl River County Fire Coordinator was begging for volunteers to come down and do fire protection this weekend. Noone could go so our group was discounted. (work, etc...)

    We took a 5ton truckload of supplies in Sunday. The clinics we delivered to were VERY glad to see us.
    RedCross, FEMA, and whatever the others were at a "checkpoint" got a little upset when the Highway Patrol (State Police) said we couldn't be stopped cause we're free Mississippians and can travel anywhere we wish.

    They got REALLY ****y when same S.P. guys informed them we did not have to relinquish weapons cause we were in a private vehicle and it's legal.
    (musta been liberal democraps)

    We're planning another run this weekend.

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    I've been down there the last 3 weeks nearly. I seriously doubt you saw anyone from FEMA or the Red Cross manning a checkpoint at all, much less trying to control access. It's neither of their jobs and they don't man those positions.

    I can't speak for all departments, but Biloxi and D'Iberville are not in need of any more outside fire/rescue help than they got. Biloxi FD is back to working 24 on 48 off. The Army COE is taking care of the first responders houses while they've been at work.

    Both cities need help with humanitarian issues, such as assisting people with getting housing, letting them know what resources are available for food, water, shelter, tarps, baby food, diapers, expenses, clean up, etc...

    The crisis down there involves humanitarian issues. You can bring all the command vans and fire engines you got and you won't solve their problems. If you are so insistant on helping those people at this point, get off the computer and get out your check book and send them money...and/or get some of your vacation days and enlist as a volunteer with the Red Cross or many of the other non-governmental agencies that are down there busting their asses. I can assure you that much of your criticism is unwarranted and undeserved. If it's not beneath your expertise go down there and help people clean their yards. You don't even need a pass or permission to get into many of these torn up areas. You can drive your car straight there with no problem. You will have plenty of takers for people needing a hand with cleaning up, placing tarps, cutting trees, etc. Leave your fire apparatus, command van, and attitude at home.
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