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    Quote Originally Posted by FFFRED
    I have two questions in regards to the Engines down in NO as they just sent 300 guys from my department down there.

    I see fires on the TV and the reports as to why the FD who is on scene in a few cases can't battle the fire is that the hydrants don't work.

    Here are my questions.
    1. Do NOFD Engines have hard suction hoses as there are feet of standing water in many places?
    2. I assume that most have low exhaust pipes thus are difficult to operate in high-water?

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    Possibly sump pump it to higher ground to porta tanks? Put the engines on the flatbed trailers of those big Army rigs?
    I agree with the hard suction concept. New Orleans is a hugh porta tank at the moment. Use it.
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    The specific requirement for engines through IL MABAS response included the ability and equipment required to draft, with a 1250 gpm pump, I believe. I suspect there was a reason for that.


    While I know we would have sent an engine if required, I'm glad we sent a 4x4 rescue instead. I think they'll find plenty of places to use that unit, especially on the recovery side if they get assigned to do that.
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    Not sure how Illinois pulled it off, but the several dozen rigs they had in a convoy headed down I55 just south of Memphis looked pretty damn impressive!
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    Yeah and not all of them have hard suction, I know the one we were taking doesn't...

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    Illinois has a plan that works. I spent Sunday afternoon getting my affairs in order, paying bills and calling my family, preparing to leave. Due to logistical issues at the Divison level, around 2000 hrs. I was notified our Division would not be sending a team at this time. I was disapointed, but being in this business for a while I know how things happen. There will be plenty for all of us to do. The trickle down has already begun up here. The firefighters that have responded and continue to respond are going to be working in some very harsh and dangerous conditions. I felt a little twinge watching the morning news and wishing I could give back to a city that I have loved since the minute I set foot in it. But back to the topic at hand. Illinois was able to help out in a big way on very short notice. I am very proud of that.
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    More proof that MABAS is a fantastic asset that does a great job. From the tornado damage in Utica and up in Stoughton, WI, to our last major incident (which required two interdivisional move up cards), to this - Illinois has the "help without stripping any one area" thing down pretty well. Will the loss of the guys from our area have an impact? Yes, but enough of us here can step up and take care of things to keep everything running as smootly as possible.

    I'm not saying other areas don't have a good system in place, but in this whole crazy world of finger pointing and failure, its good to know that the Illinois fire service seems to be doing something right as far as major coordinated response, and I'm proud of that.

    I'm also sure feelings were hurt when some folks were picked to go south when others wanted to go, but in the end, maybe everyone will get their turn to go down. Personally, I'll only be going if I become unemployed in the near future, or I'll be unemployed if I go...

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