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    I stand by my posts. If George wanted to amend his original declaration of not helping a single soul and insert criminals and thugs you would have never gotten an argument from me. But since I have many many friends in New Orleans who are good, hard working people his commentary left a bad taste in my mouth since late Friday night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MIKEYLIKESIT
    Re read the thread nm. When George said he would give nothing TO A SINGLE SOUL in N.O. I believed him and disagreed with him. The thread was about a non-exisistant event that was supposed to have happend in St. Bernard Parish.
    I'm not talking about donations. That's his personal decision. I'm talking about your complete intentional and slanderous spinning of the scum comment. You knew what he meant and you intentioanlly plastered it here as if he was refering to all the residents of NO. You can sit there and say "I'm standing by it, so there!" all you want. It's still wrong.

    George certainly doesn't need me to defend him, but crap like that ****ed me off regardless of who it happens to.
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    Ok nm. You are entitled to your opinion. I am done.
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    NOTE: This should not be construed as an argument. I have not called anyone names or have I insulted their lineage. this is merely an honest misunderstanding between me and my esteemed colleague from Chicago. i actually love and respect him and would never dream of insulting him, or any other member of the fier service.
    For a minute there, I thought we would get back to playing nice.
    I will add a quote from one of my and MIKEY's favorite bluesmen, Dr. John. Dr. John credits the Reverend Goat with this gem: New Orleans didn't die of natural causes; she was murdered!
    I read it again. No mention of Barbara Bush.
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    If you've ever heard the good Dr.speak it would sound more like "MOID-ERD"
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    Excellent commentary. Thanks for posting it, Tyler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MIKEYLIKESIT
    If you've ever heard the good Dr.speak it would sound more like "MOID-ERD"
    And I believe that it is pronounced:
    N-Awlinz!
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    For that bad taste, I find that a Mike's Hard Lemonade usually does the trick.

    As for playing nice, I personally am trying to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmony.

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    Originally posted by MIKEYLIKESIT:
    I dont have a problem with ol' Babs. However, when you are a public person everything you say in public is going to be held to close scrutiny. She used a poor choice of words and to many it sounds insensitive.
    Maybe she should have attended sensitivity training in Atlanta before self-deploying.

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    Hell. They are getting better food, clothing, medical care, houseing, and more money now than they did 2 weeks ago. For many of them this IS an upgrade.
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    How about you forget this topic and move on....... perhaps do somthing a little more productive with your time......... like........ go help the problems down there yourself. Forget what people are or arn't doing and focus on the real problems.
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    Everybody is ragging on Bush and Brown (who is getting recalled to Washington). Where were all the complaints last year when 4, thats FOUR Hurricanes hit Florida last year.

    I'm sure there were problems with FEMA then. But no one called for their heads last year.

    People need to prepare for these emergencies as directed. 3 Day Survival kits etc........... The people in Florida may have been better prepared. And as I recalled many of them took a pounding...

    Who do some of these Democrats want to run FEMA ? William Shatner and the STAR SHIP ENTERPRISE to "Beam Aboard" some of the people and supplies..

    Do I agree with everything they have done--NO!!!

    As firefighters we should all know;
    There is a time and a place for a critique- Now is not the time and New Orleans is not the place and neither is the six o'clock news like the two female
    flee bag Senators are using it for!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by osfd100

    Who do some of these Democrats want to run FEMA ? William Shatner and the STAR SHIP ENTERPRISE to "Beam Aboard" some of the people and supplies..
    This Republican says: How about just bring back James Lee Witt, IF we can get him to take the job back.
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    Default Found this on Wikipedia - Kind of Funny

    James Lee Witt (born 6 January 1944) was Director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) during the administration of President Bill Clinton.

    James Lee Witt was born in Paris, Arkansas and was raised in Dardanelle, Yell County, Arkansas. Witt started his own construction business in 1968. At age 34 he was elected County Judge of Yell County. Witt was reelected to the post 6 times and was recognized by the National Association of Counties for his work. Witt was a charter Board Chairman of Child Development, Incorporated which works to advance Head Start programs.

    In 1988 Witt was appointed by then-Governor Bill Clinton to be the head of the Arkansas Office of Emergency Services where he reorganized the state's emergency management process.

    When Bill Clinton was elected President he appointed Witt to head the Federal Emergency Management Agency and he was confirmed by the U.S. Senate in 1993. During his tenure Clinton elevated FEMA to cabinet status, and Witt overturned FEMA's previously poor reputation. A 1992 interim report by the US Congress (prior to Hurricane Andrew led to further criticism of FEMA) had said that "FEMA is widely viewed as a political dumping ground, a turkey farm, if you will, where large numbers of positions exist that can be conveniently and quietly filled by political appointment..."[1] By 1996 an Atlanta Journal-Constitution editorial said that "FEMA has developed a sterling reputation for delivering disaster-relief services, a far cry from its abysmal standing before James Lee Witt took its helm in 1993. How did Witt turn FEMA around so quickly? Well, he is the first director of the agency to have emergency-management experience. He stopped the staffing of the agency by political patronage. He removed layers of bureaucracy. Most important, he instilled in the agency a spirit of preparedness, of service to the customer, of willingness to listen to ideas of local and state officials to make the system work better."[2]

    Witt's term of office saw approximately 348 Presidential declared disaster areas in more than 6,500 counties and in all 50 states and territories. Witt supervised the response to the most costly flood disaster in the nation's history at that time, the most costly earthquake, and a dozen serious hurricanes.

    Witt is currently President of James Lee Witt Associates, LLC which provides consulting on emergency and disaster preparedness to local and state governments. Witt also serves as CEO of the International Code Council which sets international standards for building construction.

    On September 3, 2005, he was hired by Louisiana governor Kathleen Blanco to oversee reconstruction efforts in the wake of Hurricane Katrina.

    Witt has been mentioned as a potential Democratic candidate for Governor of Arkansas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osfd100
    Everybody is ragging on Bush and Brown (who is getting recalled to Washington). Where were all the complaints last year when 4, thats FOUR Hurricanes hit Florida last year.

    I'm sure there were problems with FEMA then. But no one called for their heads last year.
    The way I see it, Florida was prepared and took the necessary actions and enacted EOPs before the hurricanes hit. They use FEMA as it's intended, as a coordinating agency. Tell FEMA what you need, they get it for you. Expect FEMA to come in and take over what was a mess from the get-go, and you get what is going on now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catch22
    The way I see it, Florida was prepared and took the necessary actions and enacted EOPs before the hurricanes hit. They use FEMA as it's intended, as a coordinating agency. Tell FEMA what you need, they get it for you. Expect FEMA to come in and take over what was a mess from the get-go, and you get what is going on now.

    Florida also has a Governor who's got his act together and doesn't really need FEMA's help. GG Jeb
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    NOTE: This should not be construed as an argument. I have not called anyone names or have I insulted their lineage. this is merely an honest misunderstanding between me and my esteemed colleague from Chicago. i actually love and respect him and would never dream of insulting him, or any other member of the fier service.[/QUOTE]

    Watch out george - the web team seems to have very delicate sensibilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoFF
    Watch out george - the web team seems to have very delicate sensibilities.
    I love the Web Team, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KemalT
    I think that's a little unfair to Barb Bush & GWB too. I think there are big problems but Bush is doing a fair job, and I would say the same if Kerry or any other person was president.
    It's no wonder Bush got re-elected....from the opinions on this thread it seems there are a few of you out of touch with reality.

    I won't bother to go into why I think Dubya is a horrible president and has cast this country into a state of hopelessness only rivaled by the Great Depression...we are talking about devastation from a hurricane....a natural disaster that has nothing to do with politics. I wish everyone would leave race, social class and politics out of the damn mess. No doubt....politics have probably caused this disaster to be worse than it needed to be, but I don't see the point of spending millions investigating what went wrong with the response...it didn't work for 9/11, and obviously we didn't learn anything from that.

    Back to the original point, regardless of what Barbara Bush really meant by saying that is a mute point, the fact is...she is a public figure (who happens to be rich, white, and happens to be the mother of the President) and should have either chosen her words more carefully or just kept her mouth shut entirely.

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