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    Sorry if I tuged at a few too many strings here.
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    Dude, since I have about 5400 more posts than you, and I have put my foot in my outh (or my keyboard) more than once, let me offer you some advice.

    Read your post again. Try to see how it will look to other people.

    Then delete it.

    Just a little friendly, non-adverserial advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI
    Dude, since I have about 5400 more posts than you, and I have put my foot in my outh (or my keyboard) more than once, let me offer you some advice.

    Read your post again. Try to see how it will look to other people.

    Then delete it.

    Just a little friendly, non-adverserial advice.
    Firemedic, listen to George...if you don't, this one will get real ugly, real fast

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    George, How does it look to the others busting their collective asses to be told to look elsewhere? I am sure it will look poor, but right is right, and there are a few, to say the least down there that took that at pooly as it looks here.
    I humbly appologize.
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    I suppose you can keep pushing this, if you want. But you don't have the slightest idea as to what happened down there. Maybe someone was "cutting in". Maybe someone was breaking someone else's chops. Maybe the FDNY guys were being jerks. But it is really tough to start throwing rocks from 500 miles away based on an anecdotal telephone call.

    But hey, don't listen to me. Go for it! See how it works for you.

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    Dangit George......I missed the post. Guess it's all for the better.
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    Default am lost what happened?

    hey guys, what happened with the NY Brothers? What do you mean shower mngers?

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    Everyone wants truth and honesty when it's good news but they want to ignore the bad. We have firefighters in the same base camp as 300 NY guys. Every bit of information coming back from all of them is bad! How about NY guys stealing equipment from other rigs. It's happening and that's just the beginning. Our guys (experienced, well trained) are fighting no fires because the NY guys won't allow it. As far as I am concerned, the FDNY reputation has been tarnished by these 300 F/F's. If the next 300 deployed have the same attitiude, we should all write off the brotherhood of the FDNY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DChief900
    Everyone wants truth and honesty when it's good news but they want to ignore the bad. We have firefighters in the same base camp as 300 NY guys. Every bit of information coming back from all of them is bad! How about NY guys stealing equipment from other rigs. It's happening and that's just the beginning. Our guys (experienced, well trained) are fighting no fires because the NY guys won't allow it. As far as I am concerned, the FDNY reputation has been tarnished by these 300 F/F's. If the next 300 deployed have the same attitiude, we should all write off the brotherhood of the FDNY.
    Wow! All the news is bad, huh? ANd its all true, huh? It is amazing that 300 men have all of this power! Stealing equipment. Preventing other FD's from fighting fires. Wow!

    Tell you what. Why don't you identify what department, what chief officer and what crew is actually making these complaints? The FDNY guys here are honorable men. I am certain that they will be more than happy then to put their superiors in touch with your sources and have those thugs, those dirty rotten meanies, brought home for disciplinary action at once. Until you have the guts to name names, dates and places, don't you dare question the brotherhood of anyone, especially the FDNY.

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    Everyone wants truth and honesty when it's good news but they want to ignore the bad. We have firefighters in the same base camp as 300 NY guys. Every bit of information coming back from all of them is bad! How about NY guys stealing equipment from other rigs. It's happening and that's just the beginning. Our guys (experienced, well trained) are fighting no fires because the NY guys won't allow it. As far as I am concerned, the FDNY reputation has been tarnished by these 300 F/F's. If the next 300 deployed have the same attitiude, we should all write off the brotherhood of the FDNY.
    Lets get to the bottom of this right now. A number of guys from my house and Battalion were in the first group and some have gone in the second wave as well. This includes officers.

    -What was "stolen" and from who's rig? What the hell would our guys want with your equipment?
    -Since when is the FDNY in charge of everything? Why won't they supposedly not allow your guys to fight fires.

    Explain in depth what you are accusing these men of and I will assure you I will find out what really happened.

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    September 16, 2005
    Double duty for Bravest
    By TONY SCLAFANI
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    The city's Bravest went to New Orleans to fight fires, but ended up rebuilding lives in the hurricane-ravaged Gulf Coast - one house at a time.
    About 130 city firefighters returned home yesterday after devoting 10 days to patching up the flooded homes of scores of emergency workers in New Orleans.

    "It was incredibly satisfying to help them and their families start to rebuild their homes," said Tom Donnelly, 39, of Manhattan Rescue 1. "The destruction was overwhelming when you see it."

    Under military escort, the firefighters tossed tarps over roofs, nailed planks over shattered windows, emptied refrigerators and hauled away fallen trees.

    "To see the tears in their eyes after they see someone caring for them, it's pretty rewarding," Brooklyn Borough Commander Edward Kilduff, 55, told the Daily News.

    The firefighters, who worked in 16-hour and 24-hour shifts on disaster duty, repaired houses during their time off. About 70 wrecked homes were fixed, including houses owned by the New Orleans fire superintendent and the police chief.

    Joined by Illinois firefighters, the Bravest also cleaned out and repaired damaged firehouses, many of which will reopen today, officials said.

    "When we got down there, they had that Trade Center look on them. They were stretched too thin, too far," said Bill Murphy, 40, of Rescue 4 in Queens.

    "I can't complain at all. You kind of want to give back [after 9/11]," said Murphy, a 14-year veteran. "We take care of our own people. New York doesn't forget."

    The Firefighters ate Meals Ready to Eat and slept on cots at the Our Lady of the Holy Cross College in New Orleans, a makeshift command center for the city's fire department, where 800 rescuers also are based.

    The New York firefighters will be replaced by 265 Bravest who began arriving in New Orleans last night.

    Despite the harsh conditions, some firefighters who volunteered for the assignment said they didn't want to come back to New York yet. They said they know the people they're helping are grateful.

    "You don't have to even speak to each other," Donnelly said. "The first day we got here, you just look in their eyes and they said, 'Thanks for coming.'"

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    If you go to this thread in the IL forum, you will see that many of the returning guys had nothing but good experiences with our FDNY bro's.
    http://forums.firehouse.com/showthread.php?t=73616
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    Quote Originally Posted by DChief900
    Everyone wants truth and honesty when it's good news but they want to ignore the bad. We have firefighters in the same base camp as 300 NY guys. Every bit of information coming back from all of them is bad! How about NY guys stealing equipment from other rigs. It's happening and that's just the beginning. Our guys (experienced, well trained) are fighting no fires because the NY guys won't allow it. As far as I am concerned, the FDNY reputation has been tarnished by these 300 F/F's. If the next 300 deployed have the same attitiude, we should all write off the brotherhood of the FDNY.

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    LOL....dont you people have anything else to do besides b*tch about our b*tching?

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    Two days, and nothing else from him. I wonder why?

    He must be assembling one hell of a case file to post.
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