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    Exclamation U.S. Navy Updating to all SCBA's

    US Navy to update to SCBA, from US Navy News Service
    NNS050910-04. Shipboard Firefighting Advances Increase Safety,
    Response Time

    From Naval Surface Warfare Center Panama City Public Affairs

    PANAMA CITY, Fla. (NNS) -- Naval Surface Warfare Center
    (NSWC) Panama City (PC) is spearheading the Navy's transition
    from using the Oxygen Breathing Apparatus (OBA) to the
    Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus (SCBA) for shipboard

    NSWC PC has been driving the transition for the past few years,
    and as of July, 144 of 188 ships and submarines have been
    outfitted with the SCBA.

    "Although Scott Health and Safety is the original equipment
    manufacturer (OEM) of the SCBA, a commercial-off-the-shelf
    (COTS) item," said SCBA Tiger Team Coordinator and Trainer
    Thomas Hosea, "Naval Surface Warfare Center Panama City has
    been working with Scott since 1998 devising product
    improvements and helping to adapt the SCBA for shipboard

    NSWC PC Executive Officer Cmdr. Jeff Prater commended
    NSWC PC's Damage Control Upgrades Program Project
    Manager Mark Black and his team for their progress in
    implementing the fleetwide SCBA installation, which has helped
    enhance safety for U.S. Navy and Coast Guard shipboard
    firefighters. The Coast Guard's Mine Safety Appliances SCBA
    installations are managed by NSWC PC's Project Manager Kevin

    USS Wasp (LHD 1), which Prater previously served aboard, was
    one of many to have recently received the SCBA installation

    "The SCBA has had a huge impact, not only on the Wasp, but
    continues to positively affect almost all of the ships in the fleet,"
    Prater said.

    Black said COTS firefighting systems have "far surpassed the
    Navy's archaic OBA, which has had relatively the same design
    since its inception during the 1930s."

    "The SCBA is safer too," added Hosea, "because it operates as a
    back-worn unit that supplies a positive-pressure system, so that if
    a face seal were accidentally broken, air would flow out of the
    mask protecting the wearer from exposure to the smoke and
    preventing inhalation of hazardous gases."

    The OBA, in contrast to the SCBA, is a negative pressure system,
    meaning that the outside air would be drawn into the mask if a
    face seal were compromised, according to Hosea. He described
    the OBA system as a "chemical-bed respirator," a type of
    canister worn on the user's chest that removed carbon dioxide and
    generated oxygen for a firefighter.

    Black indicated that over time, scrutiny of the older system
    revealed shortcomings when compared with technology's modern
    advances, which led to the decision to modernize the fleet with the

    "Aside from problems associated with the OBA's negative
    pressure system, prototypes of similar chemical bed breathing
    apparatuses' inhalation temperatures were too high to continue
    development," Black said. "Add to that the OBA is worn on the
    chest of the firefighter and then you have a maneuverability
    problem. Whereas, the SCBA system's air cylinder is worn on the
    user's back."

    Hosea said that NSWC PC has helped the OEM to increase the
    durability of the SCBA aboard Navy ships. One example of
    product improvement resulted in a four-fold increase in the impact
    resistance of the face piece lens, greatly reducing lens cracking.

    "Another improvement we added was the addition of a check
    valve to divert air across the facemask lens, which keeps the lens
    from fogging while Sailors are in passages waiting to go on air,"
    Black added.

    According to Black, "it was providing a source of air that could be
    re-charged quickly which enabled the SCBA to be adapted for
    shipboard firefighting."

    To accomplish this, Black explained his team planned to use Navy
    ships' high-pressure air systems, filter the air, and then use a
    booster pump to increase the pressure from 3,000
    pounds-per-square inch (psi) to 4,500 psi.

    "Additionally, because Sailors can remain 'on-air' with SCBAs
    during drills, this increases the ship's readiness," Hosea added.
    "By contrast, most drills using the OBA were only simulated due
    to associated costs with the purchase and disposal of the older
    system's canisters."

    Black said the newer equipment definitely enabled the fleet with a
    much faster response to shipboard firefighting.

    "When you consider divers typically charge at 200 psi per minute,
    and we're taking a cylinder from zero to 4,500 psi in one minute,
    this is amazingly fast," Black said.
    Stay Safe and Well Out There....

    Always remembering 9-11-2001 and 343+ Brothers

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    I thought one of the main reasons that the OBA was chest-mounted was to reduce the profile because of the difficulty in negotiating narrow manways and hatches with a cylinder on one's back. Might this be a problem?

    Also, I wonder how much more the unit will cost with the Navy's "upgrades"....got to assume that such customization with "not available to the rest of us" options would be pricey. Then throw in the "government" cost inflations, even more $$$.

    Still, the SCBA will be safer than the OBA units......
    Chief Dwayne LeBlanc
    Paincourtville Volunteer Fire Department
    Paincourtville, LA

    "I have a dream. It's not a big dream, it's just a little dream. My dream and I hope you don't find this too crazy is that I would like the people of this community to feel that if, God forbid, there were a fire, calling the fire department would actually be a wise thing to do. You can't have people, if their houses are burning down, saying, 'Whatever you do, don't call the fire department!' That would be bad."
    C.D. Bales, "Roxanne"

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    The size restrictions may have been a concern when the OBA was originally placed in service. Modern ships have changed greatly with the electronic components getting ever smaller along with newer ships using fiber optics. Not too sure about subs, but the surface ships are much more geared towards space and comfort than earlier ships built post Korea. Can't say I would ever miss wearing an OBA, but would take one in a heart beat just to have for the collection!

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    The OBA's had their place on ships. A lot of fire department use them back before the SCBA's replaced the old all service cannister mask. I have use a OBA on the job and in the military. It did a great job. The cannisters are or were very expensive as I can remember.

    I am glad to see the Navy replacing them

    Make It Happen

    Never forget 9-11-2001
    343 Brothers Who Were MURDERED!!

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    I remember using them well...and getting my arse ripped for using it because the canisters were something like 25 bucks in the early 70's.
    Steve Gallagher
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