fuel economy

[CaptainMikey]

What is the most comprehensive site for fuel economy data on every car made?
I am having a heck of a time dealing with a van with 12-13 city and 16tops on highway. Looking to sell and get a car, hopefuly with much better data.

Also on another note, is there any diesel truck out there that gets good mileage, better than 12-13city/16highway?

[lvwrench]

Don't think you will ever see a true great mileage truck or van with a diesel or a gas motor unless it is a smaller import model. I have an old 73 Ford P/U that gets 16 highway with a 390 4 barrel carb so I consider that good. You could try Fleetowner Newlsine.com or Wards Auto.com (I think those are right) and see if you can scrounge the info you are looking for. Good luck.

[SteveDude]

Jeez....
I never expected to see fuel economy conversations coming out of the US...things must be bad.

Diesels are great over here now, many European Diesels are as fast as if not better than their petrol counterparts. My Saab 9-5 Diesel Estate (Sportswagon) gives me about 32mpg around town and flies right up into the 40's on a long run.... drives like a petrol car, and apart from when idling it sounds like a petrol car

[ffexpCP]

My 4-banger '94 Ford Escort wagon gets around 37 MPG highway. And that's with a full load of junk and A/C on. Not sure what my city driving is like.

[mcaldwell]

I use this one:

Fueleconomy.org

It is very thorough for passenger cars, SUV's, and light trucks, but doesn't always have HD work trucks (i.e. F-350's, etc) and large diesels.

And most Diesels will do much better than 13/16. Even a late model F-350 with a 7.3L Diesel monster will get close to 20. For passenger capacity, look at the mid-90's or newer Diesel Toyota Land Cruisers. Diesel economy with comfort and off-road capabilities if you need it.

For jaw-dropping economy, try a Diesel VW Jetta, and see close to 50mpg.

[CaptainMikey]

The problem is that my van (conversion) very nice! Only gets 12-13(maybe 14)mpg city and 17-18 highway. Before the katrina crap and all the oil crap, (1.98-2.10gal) I was seeing a monthly cost of 160-190. It jumped to 245 then to 320!!! And on my measly student income, that is over half of my monthly earnings. So I was going to fix the van for about 1500 and sell I probaly can get 8800 out of it. And try to find something with alteast 20mpg city.

Then once I get with an ems service, I can get my crown vic, and when I hire Full time FF/MEDIC I can buy my truck.

Like a dodge neon or intrepid, or chyrysler concorde. But my offical goal is to
have a Crown vic p71 and a f250turbodisel.

[CaptainMikey]

Hey what is the list price on a fairly decent used Diesel jetta?

[CaptainMikey]

The kicker is that for gas to be at $3.00 per gallon, opec would have to charge $95 per barrell,(according to calculations of 9 different states) But it is right now $58.00 per barrell????? Go figure This makes me very very very freakin angry!!!

[hwoods]

I will NOT be getting rid of my Dodge 4X4 Pickup (15-18 mpg) unless it's to get another one. Performance matters.

[mcaldwell]

I'm with ya Woodsy!

I drive a 5.8L Full Size Ford Bronco, and it is about as efficient as a 4500 lb brick in the wind will be. I live very close to work and so don't have to worry about a commute. In the end, the performance, cargo space, and off-road ability is more important to me than a couple of extra bucks in gas.

[firemanpat29]

My 2500 HD is not that bad on the diesel mileage. The trick is putting
in a chip or a programmer. I the EDGE unit in mine adds HP AND tourque,
while improving mileage. I thought the truck was powerfull when I bought
it.... But add the edge and its a different ride..

[DaSharkie]

Jeez....
I never expected to see fuel economy conversations coming out of the US...things must be bad.

Diesels are great over here now, many European Diesels are as fast as if not better than their petrol counterparts. My Saab 9-5 Diesel Estate (Sportswagon) gives me about 32mpg around town and flies right up into the 40's on a long run.... drives like a petrol car, and apart from when idling it sounds like a petrol car

Diesels here add another 1 - 4 thousand dollars to the price of a vehicle, and at the rate we trade in our vehicles most people don't want the extra expense.

My dream rig is a GMC Sierra 2500HD Crew Cab with the Duramax Diesel but that is long way off.

My little '05 Subaru Outback wagon has a wee little 4 banger in it and is all-wheel drive. We get about 22 or so in town, but on the highway she gets 32 (sticker says 28.) Couldn't be happier with my Subie. Even made in the USA too.

Sad thing is that the prices may drop $2.50 and we will become comfortable with that again as a society, then buy SUVs again and readjust. The love affair with fuel economy will be short lived by both purchasers and The Big Three. No wonder they are losing market share to foreign auto makers.