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    I was recently given the job of coming up with a detailed daily apparatus checklist. Does anyone know where I can get sample forms. The checklists are for engines and aerial apparatus. Thanks Stacy

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    Send me an PM with your address.. I can mail you a copies of ours for Engines, Laders, rescues and support vehicles..
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    I'd like to help you out if you could change your profile to allow PM's or just PM me with your email and I'll send you what we use here.

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    Default Daily Apparatus Check List

    I've got some FD examplse too and would also appreciate receiving whatever anyone else has to see the best and most thorough (without writing a book) for the driver to do a daily check list on his/her apparatus to ensure its safe and functioning properly and not saying "the black dog did it"...

    Also there is going to be a new NFPA 1911 Standard for Inservice Maintenance and Inspection of Apparatus which will help the fire service because it seems that it's all over the board from a real good check list to nothing at all and in this day and age of legal liability it would be a good thing to have documentation

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    Could I also get a copy? Thanks

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    Default Nfpa 1911

    I thought 1911 was just for the annual pump test? Aerialguy1 help me ouy here if you could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aerialguy1
    I've got some FD examplse too and would also appreciate receiving whatever anyone else has to see the best and most thorough (without writing a book) for the driver to do a daily check list on his/her apparatus to ensure its safe and functioning properly and not saying "the black dog did it"...

    Also there is going to be a new NFPA 1911 Standard for Inservice Maintenance and Inspection of Apparatus which will help the fire service because it seems that it's all over the board from a real good check list to nothing at all and in this day and age of legal liability it would be a good thing to have documentation

    aerialguy1@hotmail.com

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    We use a handheld PDA that uses a program called AssetTrax. It has to have the operator sign in and then we have tag's on the appratus to verify that the operator scanned them in a working or not working on the appratus.
    It has made our people accountable for their actions and it's in black and white.

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    Default New NFPA 1911 2007 Standard

    There is going to be a new 1911 Standard called:

    NFPA 1911
    Standard for the Inspection, Maintenance, Testing and Retirement of In-Service Automotive Fire Apparatus.
    2007 Edition

    I think this is going to be a great Standard as it's going to cover all aspects of apparatus maintenance and refurbishing and replacement suggestions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devondual
    I was recently given the job of coming up with a detailed daily apparatus checklist. Does anyone know where I can get sample forms. The checklists are for engines and aerial apparatus. Thanks Stacy
    I got drafted to make ours. I use Microsoft Word. All you do is list eveyting and put a little check box. Its really easy. Heres a sample...


    CAB:

    o Engine oil ___
    o Coolant ___
    o Tranmission fluid ___
    o Headlights Low Beam
    o Headlight High Beam
    o Spootlights R L
    o EMS Gloves M L XL

    COMPARTMENT 1:

    o Drivers SCBA ___psi
    o Spare SCBA mask
    o Hand Light
    o 5 Spare SCBA bottles _____psi____psi____psi____psi___psi
    o Spare O2 bottle ___psi
    o Headset for pump panel

    If you have MS Word I can e-mail you a copy of ours. Send me an e-mail so Ill have your address.
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    One thing that bugs me about most lists is the transmission oil being listed as a daily check. (I am a mechanic primarily.) On order to be accurately checked the transmission needs to be hot, not warm, not cold, and the only way to get it hot is to drive the truck around, quite a ways too. We need to approach this with the psychology in mind, that putting it on the daily check list encourages people to do it halfassed, do it wrong, or never do it at all and just pencil whip it. Transmission oil is not as critical an item as engine oil. It does not have rings or seals to go past where it could be burned without being noticed. If it leaves it has to leak and presumably someone would notice the puddle or notice the fact that the truck did not go. Engines may use oil but a properly operating transmission uses none.

    (For the record I have discovered that retarder equipped transmissions use a little past the seals of the air applied retarder cylinder and out onto the ground though. Another good reason not to get a transmission retarder)

    So I submit that transmission oil should probably be checked weekly or longer with explicit instructions that the transmission needs to be fully hot. The new electronic level sensors are nice because they require no manual reading and they will not read the oil level unless the right conditions are met.

    Birken

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    Thumbs up Apparatus Inspection

    A standard vehicle inspection form is really not the answer. You need to develop an inspection routine for your units. This can be based on run time, age of unit, purpose of unit and a host of other items. Who will do the inspection? Do you have the proper tools? Is the inspector qualified to inspect and report findings? It is not just as simple as putting some checks on some paper. I would be glad to assist you or any department if need be. Allen, Stewart & Stevenson Emergency Vehicle Repair Division.

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    Post Daily Checklist

    If anyone here would like some input, I overhauled our maintenance program in 1996. I spent six years running our fleet maintenance program and have many forms that might assist you;

    Daily, Weekly, Monthly Checklists
    Small Engine PM Forms
    Apparatus Inventories
    Misc., Equipment Inventories
    Data and Fact Forms

    I also started a business to assist departments in creating a fleet maintenance program or adding insight to making such a program more efficient.

    I'm here to offer my assistance to everyone if interested.
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    Contact your area VFIS insurance agent or go on their website. Even if you do not have insurance through them, they will be glad to provide you with some excellent generic sheets to get started with.
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    Default VFIS Reccomendations

    From the VFIS Drivers Training Program - I highly reccomend it.


    Pre-trip
    Vehicle overview
    Check the engine compartment
    Start engine and check inside cab
    Check headlights, signal lights, warning lights, and audio devices
    Conduct walk around inspection
    Check controls and indicators
    Check brake system (air brakes)

    Post-Trip
    Cleaning of vehicle.
    Replacing supplies.
    Re-fueling and checking fluid levels, if justified.
    Report any unusual occurrences or malfunctions.


    Types of Maintenance
    Routine Maintenance
    Scheduled Maintenance
    Crisis Maintenance

    Routine
    Fluid level checks
    Wheels and tires
    Electrical systems and devices

    Scheduled
    Manufacturer’s recommended schedule
    Amount of use
    Organizational policy
    Professional standards

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    Quote Originally Posted by BirkenVogt
    One thing that bugs me about most lists is the transmission oil being listed as a daily check. (I am a mechanic primarily.) On order to be accurately checked the transmission needs to be hot, not warm, not cold, and the only way to get it hot is to drive the truck around, quite a ways too. We need to approach this with the psychology in mind, that putting it on the daily check list encourages people to do it halfassed, do it wrong, or never do it at all and just pencil whip it. Transmission oil is not as critical an item as engine oil. It does not have rings or seals to go past where it could be burned without being noticed. If it leaves it has to leak and presumably someone would notice the puddle or notice the fact that the truck did not go. Engines may use oil but a properly operating transmission uses none.

    (For the record I have discovered that retarder equipped transmissions use a little past the seals of the air applied retarder cylinder and out onto the ground though. Another good reason not to get a transmission retarder)

    So I submit that transmission oil should probably be checked weekly or longer with explicit instructions that the transmission needs to be fully hot. The new electronic level sensors are nice because they require no manual reading and they will not read the oil level unless the right conditions are met.

    Birken
    We did exactly this, as we found that they were being overfilled reguarly. The same went for tire pressure. We replaced a lot of valve stems from wearing out threads and needle valves. While most things need to be kept on top of, often the daily checks become a routine that gets done half-*ssed
    and is worse. And nothing says that anything you've checked can't fail five minutes later on a run. Its all about balance.
    Daily: starts? emrgency warning systems? pumps? aerial moves? SCBA ready? nothing missing? nothing broke? Fuel ok? Good to go!

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    Tire pressure is a different story, I try to get people to check that daily. Any run can get a nail in a tire and a flat dual can be very inconspicuous. To prevent wearout of valve stems add the little caps that you can check the air pressure through without removing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BirkenVogt
    Tire pressure is a different story, I try to get people to check that daily. Any run can get a nail in a tire and a flat dual can be very inconspicuous. To prevent wearout of valve stems add the little caps that you can check the air pressure through without removing.

    Birken
    The operator is supposed to "thump" the tires daily but we've found this is a lost art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devondual
    I was recently given the job of coming up with a detailed daily apparatus checklist. Does anyone know where I can get sample forms. The checklists are for engines and aerial apparatus. Thanks Stacy

    Same here. I could use checklists for Engine, Aerial, Tanker and all equipment including SCBA.


    Thanks in advance for the help.

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    Has anyone heard of or tried Zonar. It is an electronic inspection system that as you walk around you scan items that you check and input the condition of those items. Then I think when the hand held device is cradled it uploads the inspection report where it is stored by the Zonar company. I think you can even customize the inspections for each vehicle.

    www.zonarsystems.com

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    We offer a wireless application that tracks the type of details you reference. Be happy to share our story if you are interested...

    Check it out at www.responsivetechltd.com
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    Not to resurrect this thread but.... I'm looking for apparatus forms that I can get ideas on format and layout from. The old excel version 'monthly apparatus check' sheets look bla, I'd like to spruce them up to something that looks professional.

    More importantly, I need to update our 'post-run' apparatus sheets (something the driver fills out when we get back to the firehouse) The sheet would capture the crew, demographics, items used were replaced, items needing attention / missing, etc.

    Anybody able to provide some examples of what you are using? feel free to send electronic versions to my mailbox or my personal email bwebster@nycap.rr.com Contact me directly for my snail mail address... Thanks in advance for your assistance; the Chief has been on my back about this for a while now... Ben

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    I am looking for daily inspection forms for fire apparatus.

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