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    PA here, still waiting. SS# ends with an 8, anxious to see how this turns out!

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    I believe they started with SS#'s ending in 9. Everyone I know who has one that ends in 9 is in the first 1800 or so. Which makes sense. now as far as what that means is anybodies guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlet05
    I think I've heard about 5 different rumors in the last 10 hours about what is next, I swear some people just make this stuff up, so with that in mind, I'm not going to believe anything I hear unless it is from an official source.
    Outlet, that is the way to think brother! Nothing is for sure until you see that peice of mail show up at your house saying "report to the fire academy on XX/XX/XXXX."

    I didn't even take the test and I'm #10 on the list and my last digit of my SS# is 14! How did I get a double digit LAST NUMBER you ask? It's Chicago, they are going to hire who they want anyway!

    In all seriousness guys, good luck and I hope that you all make out for the better on the test.

    FDNY's filing period is still open for anyone that doesn't want to wait around: http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/html/co...s_080106.shtml
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    i'm in the 12,500's and my SS# ends with a 6, for what its worth.

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    I called the HR dept today and asked about these random numbers and how this is going to work, they told me that your random number is where you are on the list and that they will be starting at number 1 and going down the list, so if your # is 1-1200 you will probally be called in the next 3 years.

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    Maybe they should post this stuff on their website, cutting down on the flow of people calling them to verify information. Pretty bad HR process, but with 25,000 applicants why strive to be good, right?

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    It will probably be more than 1-1200, you gotta figure between the background check, phyiscal, medical, drug and the academy that will weed out several hundred people. Either way its stupid if you ask me, I would like to know who decided this "random" selection process was a good idea.

    At this point i think what they SHOULD do is say process numbers 1-1000 and take what candidates they think are the best for the first year of class, 1001-2000 for year 2, and 2001-3000 for year three and say hire 300 from each bracket or whatever they need. But whatever I have no say in the matter.
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    I hope they use the CPAT or some other challenging physical test. I took the CPAT and I think the stair climber part will weed some people out. I think they should do it by age. Some 19-year-old has a chance to start his career before those of us in our late 20's and early 30's who have already proven ourselves in other ventures? That's what ticks me off!

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    I think on this exam I may have gotten one question wrong at the most, and my number is in the high 11,700's. For the people who do get hired by CFD just be very careful of the people who you will be training next to in the academy because they most likely are definitely NOT the most qualified people for the job. My number ends in a 6, so if you are in the same boat as myself good luck next time.

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    There is no way that start at 1 and go up. It is random, Passing candidates have now been lumped into a giant pool and assigned a random ranking based on an algorithm that uses their Social Security numbers. Remember each class needs 10% medics. That's all I have to say for now.

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    yea, I think these numbers we are being assigned are basically like some sort of registry number, because if the test was pass/fail and they used SS#'s to put us in some sort of order its totally unfair if they started from 1.

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    More than 83 percent of the 20,400 people who took Chicago's first firefighters entrance exam in more than a decade passed -- and 44 percent of them are minorities -- City Hall announced Monday amid concern that standards have been reduced in the name of diversity.

    "I'm very surprised at that large a [passing] number. I'm worried that, ultimately, we won't get the best," said Ald. Ginger Rugai (19th), whose Southwest Side Ward is home to more firefighters than any other.

    But Ald. Isaac Carothers (29th), chairman of the City Council's Police and Fire Committee, hailed the results as a "huge step in the right direction" for African Americans, who make up 21 percent of the passing group.

    Of the 17,000 applicants who got 70 percent or better on the May 25 and 26 exam, 54 percent are white, 20 percent are Hispanic and 3 percent are Asian. The passing group is 86 percent male and 14 percent female.

    HISTORY OF DISCRIMINATION

    The applicant pool was 49 percent white, 26 percent black, 21 percent Hispanic, 2 percent Asian and 86 percent male.

    The Chicago Fire Department has a long and documented history of discrimination and racial tension. The 5,077-member department is 67.4 percent white, 20.1 percent black and 10.4 percent Hispanic. The higher the rank, the whiter it gets. Only 303 firefighters are women.

    Passing candidates have now been lumped into a giant pool and assigned a random ranking based on an algorithm that uses their Social Security numbers.

    The rank will be used to determine the order in which candidates are summoned to the fire academy for interviews, background checks, agility testing and, ultimately, training.

    City Hall announced last fall that the entrance exam would be conducted on a pass-fail basis. The decision to market heavily, start testing every three years and replace a disputed 1995 eligibility list with a pass-fail pool was "all about fairness," Mayor Daley said at the time.

    Drafted by an African American with an eye toward diversifying the Fire Department, the 1995 firefighters exam drew more than 26,000 applicants to the United Center.

    When the results for minorities were disappointing, the city established a cut-off score of 89 and started hiring randomly from the top 1,800 "well-qualified" candidates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beeballs
    There is no way that start at 1 and go up. It is random, Passing candidates have now been lumped into a giant pool and assigned a random ranking based on an algorithm that uses their Social Security numbers. Remember each class needs 10% medics. That's all I have to say for now.

    Im an EMT right now, Im planning on going to paramedic school next year. If I do become a paramedic for chicago how long would it take or me to transfer over to the fire side?
    My number is 14,583 and i think it will take about 6-7 years for me

    I heard that each class is about 90 candidates and 10 medics. Wouldn't it be easier to get on as a paramedic and transfer over?

    Also if i do get my paramedic lisense is there a special paramedic test i need to take for chicago?

    These are things i heard so im not making anythng up. Im just confused because so many rumors out there

    Thanks

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    To become a paramedic for CFD is random also. Listen up for the next paramedic announcement, and go fill out the piece of paper and wait. To get chosen as a paramedic then is a lottery system. If you get on as a Medic for CFD you should plan on being one for quite a while cause you never know what's going on with their fire classes. I would guess it's easier to cross over if you took the '06 test. Also plan on running 20 EMS calls a day in which 18 are an abuse of the system and a waste of the Medics time. At least that's how it is in the town I work for. You'll get your trauma's mixed in there also. The worse the area is the crazier the calls are.

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    OK..........i know that there is this ramdom number assignment now............
    ..........and there is this massive pool of 17,063........
    So the Veteran's preference is pretty much blown out of the water if every one that passed has a random number ...right?.......i mean ,,, how would you distinguish between the two groups of people...(veterans & non-veterans)?
    I know most likelynoone will know....... but just a thought.

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    Exactly army, your statement is 1 problem on a whole laundry list of problems. This just has disaster written all over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dzddevildog
    mine ends with an 8, and i fall in the upper 1600's
    that doesnt make sense mines also ends wit an 8 and im in the 15,000's

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    You know all i hear is crying, if you were #20 on the list would you say anything, (hell no!). Accept what you got and move on in your life.I took the 95 test and score an 88. Still waiting, but i was realistic and moved on. Took this test in May, thought i was wasting my time and ended up with a random number that i could probally sell for millions if it was possible. But at the end of the day don t throw all your eggs in one basket!

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    Quote Originally Posted by finone
    You know all i hear is crying, if you were #20 on the list would you say anything, (hell no!). Accept what you got and move on in your life.I took the 95 test and score an 88. Still waiting, but i was realistic and moved on. Took this test in May, thought i was wasting my time and ended up with a random number that i could probally sell for millions if it was possible. But at the end of the day don t throw all your eggs in one basket!
    So, you mean I shouldn't have quit my job, and sat in front of my mailbox waiting to hear from the CFD? Man, I wish somebody would have told me that this wasn't a sure thing.

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    My number is in the upper 6000's and my SSN ends in 3.

    I don't know about some of the people here, but I am going to keep a positive attitude about this whole process. The CFD would be a great opportunity and I am really excited about this!

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    My 2 month old son was able to sneak into the exam, lie about his age, and passed it with a 71%. I forgot to mention he's randomly in the top 300.

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    You will get hired according to how many votes you can get for Daley.
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    Man.. this forum has turned so negative.............. you've waited this long... just be thankfull that you are even one of the people who passed and has a chance at all.

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    My post wasn't negative. Just truthful.
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