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    This test was a joke, to quote our union president. I feel bad for all the well prepared go-getters out there who will now be grouped with and beaten out by many of the low grade morons who "passed" this test. Once again, the City is f^@%ing it up for everyone to satisfy the unqualified few. If you get on, get used to it because you will see this theme over and over again in your career.
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    Lightbulb What is wrong with you people?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoFF
    This test was a joke, to quote our union president. I feel bad for all the well prepared go-getters out there who will now be grouped with and beaten out by many of the low grade morons who "passed" this test. Once again, the City is f^@%ing it up for everyone to satisfy the unqualified few. If you get on, get used to it because you will see this theme over and over again in your career.
    Just b/c these "unqualified" people passed the test does not mean that they will be FF's. It simply means they will get to the next step eventually. If they are as "unqualified" as you say, then shouldn't that mean they will NOT pass the next steps of the process? And what does that say about the people who have gone on and become FF's? Were they "unqualified" as well? Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toyamsu
    Just b/c these "unqualified" people passed the test does not mean that they will be FF's. It simply means they will get to the next step eventually. If they are as "unqualified" as you say, then shouldn't that mean they will NOT pass the next steps of the process? And what does that say about the people who have gone on and become FF's? Were they "unqualified" as well? Just a thought.
    Just my opinion but i'll say you're wrong
    they dumbed down the written they could dumb down the agility and then the "randomness" starts to report for the academy. those "unqualified" people still have as much of a chance as anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefighter2230
    Just my opinion but i'll say you're wrong
    they dumbed down the written they could dumb down the agility and then the "randomness" starts to report for the academy. those "unqualified" people still have as much of a chance as anyone.

    Goodluck to your husband
    They could...but they haven't. I haven't heard or read anywhere that they were going to low-grade the agility test. As far as the drug test and interview, either you got it or you don't.

    And thanks for the luck, we need it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toyamsu
    They could...but they haven't. I haven't heard or read anywhere that they were going to low-grade the agility test. As far as the drug test and interview, either you got it or you don't.

    And thanks for the luck, we need it!
    To switch form the CPAT to a "city made" agility test is proof enough I would say but once again just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefighter2230
    To switch form the CPAT to a "city made" agility test is proof enough I would say but once again just my opinion.
    There was no switch. As far as I know it has always been our own test - and very easy, at least in '95.
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    So you guys know they're definitely using the physical test from '95? I "heard" they might use the CPAT this time. This is important because I know the CPAT will eliminate a lot of people. I'm in really good shape and I'm not gonna lie, the stair climber part is killer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmcconn1
    So you guys know they're definitely using the physical test from '95? I "heard" they might use the CPAT this time. This is important because I know the CPAT will eliminate a lot of people. I'm in really good shape and I'm not gonna lie, the stair climber part is killer.
    I don't think anyone knows which they are gonna use. I certainly don't. I just said, as far as I know, we have never used it before. I hope they do use the CPAT because it's widely used and accepted so hopefully it can't be challenged as discriminatory(?), and if it is even mildly challenging, it will be better than the '95 test. In the CPAT are there different standards for women? Or age?
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    This is total BS. I'm sorry but it is. You got thousands of people who went out and put good effort into this test.... because for many this was a once in a lifetime oppurtunity.(i cant spell blah blah blah) And many are getting screwed BIG TIME. This test is supposed to be random and nondiscrimnatory.

    Well.... if it discriminates the ones who scored well....that is still discriminations

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    It is truly unfortunate to see yet another department fails to reward and recognize superior achievement and superior performance.

    Instead they choose to reward mediocre performance and use a random selection of all those who passed.

    God-forbid we reward those who did better than the others...I guess that would hurt someoneís feelings....those who aren't as capable or didn't prepare themselves adequately(either in the past few months or for their entire lives up until this point) for a simple exam.

    It is simply amazing this country got as far as it did before falling apart as it is now.

    The desire to work and achieve and hire the best performing qualified candidates was at one time the accepted standard...I suppose this notion has been supplanted with that of those who wish to achieve the bare-azz minimum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoFF
    There was no switch. As far as I know it has always been our own test - and very easy, at least in '95.
    Oh ok I could have been wrong but at one point I Thought I read that the CPAT was going to be used since it is a widely recoginzed test and is hard to challenge with discrimination either you can complete the tasks or you can't.
    Like I said I dunno though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefighter2230
    Oh ok I could have been wrong but at one point I Thought I read that the CPAT was going to be used since it is a widely recoginzed test and is hard to challenge with discrimination either you can complete the tasks or you can't.
    Like I said I dunno though
    I hope you are right! Again, does anyone know if the CPAT has different standards for women or age differences? All I know about it is what I have read on these forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoFF
    I hope you are right! Again, does anyone know if the CPAT has different standards for women or age differences? All I know about it is what I have read on these forums.
    If there is a different standard,,,,, there shouldn't be........Being a Woman i would like to be held to the same standards as my commrades...... because it's not like you are expected to preform less because you a a woman........you are expected to do you job......
    SO.... that being said....
    if you can't pass it the physical agility test as is.....
    maybe you should reconsider the career as a Fire Fighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmyMPchick
    If there is a different standard,,,,, there shouldn't be.........
    Very healthy opinion, to me anyway!!!! I hope you make it on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoFF
    Very healthy opinion, to me anyway!!!! I hope you make it on.
    not trying to sound bitter to you... i just had to deal with issues like that being a female MP in the military.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmyMPchick
    not trying to sound bitter to you... i just had to deal with issues like that being a female MP in the military.....
    I didn't take it as bitter, I took it as admirable. Too many people are looking for excuses for why they don't have to perform - you are not, and thats a good thing as far as I'm concerned.
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    The CPAT has its legal problems. Recently, there was a settlement regarding the CPAT. Anyone department who is administering the CPAT has to (don't quote me) allow for 2 practice sessions.

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    Default cpat.

    to pass the CPAT you have 10:20 Seconds. Male or female. white or black, fat or skinny. if it varies, then it is not the CPAT.

    screw weight lifting for the CPAT, the key is endurance. i ran hills, sprints and stairs with weight to build what little strength i needed to pass, alternate days i just did strictly endurance runs/bicycle. if you can run 4 miles non-stop, you should pass.

    also, part of the cpat is the practice test that must be offered as well as a general training program they send you.

    !0:1 odds says that Chicago does not use the CPAT. thats just my opinion.

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    I read in this article
    http://redeye.chicagotribune.com/sea...,4807897.story
    that in '95 canidates were put into "well qualified" and "qualified" categories. Is that not true for this year? I got put into the "qualified" category. Did anyone get "well qualified'?

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    nope.... you are either qualified, or unqualified. your ranking is the order in which you will be called for futher testing

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