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    Mayor Richard M Daley and Fire Commissioner Cortez Trotter today announced details of a new Fire Department entrance exam and urged young men and women to "answer the call" by considering a career as a firefighter-emergency medical technician (EMT).

    "The theme of this campaign is 'answer the call' - and itís a high calling," the Mayor said at a news conference at the Fire Department Candidate Graduation at Navy Pier. "It's a job that gives you the opportunity not just to help your fellow human beings, but to actually save their lives. Itís a job that provides plenty of excitement and the satisfaction of working with a team of solid professionals."

    Daley added, "We not only want the best-qualified set of applicants. We also want the most diverse set of applicants. We want a Fire Department that looks like Chicago, and that means we want more women and minorities in the ranks."

    "I want children in Chicago - regardless of gender or background - to see Chicago firefighters in action and think, "That could be me some day'."

    The last firefighter eligibility list was posted in 1995, the last year an exam was administered.

    "It is the goal of this Fire Department to never again let a decade go by between tests," said Trotter. "It is our desire from this test forward to have an entrance exam for Chicago Firefighter/EMT every three years."

    Registration for the new exam will be between March 29, 2006 and April 11, 2006. The exam will be administered in May.

    Trotter outlined a marketing plan that will involve outreach to educational, civic and faith-based organizations in every neighborhood of Chicago and throughout the Midwest.


    "We will go wherever ever we can to locate the best and the brightest young people of varied backgrounds who need to hear our message and see what a great department we have to offer," he said.

    The outreach will include advertising on billboards, bus shelters, radio and television, as well as a traveling recruiting team, which will hit the streets this week.

    Starting salary for a firefighter-EMT is over $44,838 per year with a raise after six months. The job offers competitive benefits, continuing education, reimbursement for college tuition and the opportunity for career advancement.

    Trotter challenged young people to "Answer the Call" by signing up at Chicago Public Library branches or on the Internet at www.cityofchicago.org/fire

    Candidates must be at least 19 at the time of the exam and have a high school diploma or G.E.D. Applicants need not live in Chicago, but they must reside in the city at the time of employment. Applicants must also be under 35 at the time of appointment.



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    More detailed infomation can be found at the link below.

    http://egov.cityofchicago.org/city/w...meEnumValue=31

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    will anyone from chicago send me a PM to possibly answer some questions I have about this process please

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    you must apply in person

    Wrong. Online apps are taken

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    There was a past posting by a Chicago firefighter stating that they thought CWH management solutions was giving the next fire exam. They also stated that CWH was doing a job analysis last year by talking to Chicago fireman at their stations.

    Can any Chicago fireman verify this ? We are trying to find out who will be the test consultant for the 2006 exam.


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    I hope it's not chw that test sucks

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    Default here we go again....

    Going to a Pass/Fail only test will be a nightmare, because there will be NO transparency, NO accountability,NO actual list, and NO way of checking to see if the hiring sequence is legitimate.

    Otherwise, a perfect world excuse for the City to bypass truly qualified candidates and go back to hiring unqualified minorities and those with clout.

    That should ensure the CFD's position as a second rate, progress resistant department for years to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDean867
    Going to a Pass/Fail only test will be a nightmare, because there will be NO transparency, NO accountability,NO actual list, and NO way of checking to see if the hiring sequence is legitimate.

    Otherwise, a perfect world excuse for the City to bypass truly qualified candidates and go back to hiring unqualified minorities and those with clout.

    That should ensure the CFD's position as a second rate, progress resistant department for years to come.

    Who said the test is pass fail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golzy12
    Who said the test is pass fail?
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...ck=1&cset=true

    The City said, that's who.

    And the supposed "consternation" of the Mayor and other City officials is nonsense. The top scorers were top scorers not becuae they were white, but because they were CAPABLE - a fact of which the City or the minority- attention loving Mayor fails to realize. This Pass/Fail test will let them pick and choose the CFD of the future, and the citizens of Chicago will be the worse for it.
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    I'm good at pass/fail tests, I'm even better at being randomly selected to move on in hiring processes .

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    In the job announcement it states "only a percentage of those applicants taking the written examination will be eligible to participate in the additional steps of the hiring process"

    Somehow this test will be graded with the top scorers moving on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dmfireschool
    In the job announcement it states "only a percentage of those applicants taking the written examination will be eligible to participate in the additional steps of the hiring process"

    Somehow this test will be graded with the top scorers moving on.


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    Maybe they will make the cutoff 80 percent or osmthing and then only the people who get above 80 percent will be eligible to be randomly selected.

    How many people tested in 95?

    How many people were hired off that list?

    How many people were hired per year off that list?

    How many people are expected to test this year?

    How many people are they expected to hire?

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    The problem with the last list was the supposedly "arbitrary" cut off score of 90% for well qualified. This cost them big bucks in lawsuits. They will probably select from the people who passed in order of the last number of their social security numbers. ie. start with all the threes then the fours and so on. Of course that will leave room for inserting the people they want. Soooo here are my thoughts (this involves lots of approximations and fuzzy math) 20 thousand took the last test. About 16 thousand passed. 1800 scored well qualified. It took about 6 years to get thru the 1800. Now lets say 16,000 pass a "pass/fail" test. And as they suggest, they test every three years from now on (fat chance). That means if attrition rates stay the same they should go thru about 900 candidates. This gives you about a 6% chance of getting called. Now of course this doesn't factor in sex, skin color, or who your dad is. Like I said it's fuzzy, but I don't know if I would buy a plane ticket to take Chicago. Then again, I'd rather be lucky than good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDean867
    That should ensure the CFD's position as a second rate, progress resistant department for years to come.
    And what department are you on?

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    ok going back through this post from the first page they want valid drivers license that have to be in state or will an out of state one work as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoFF
    And what department are you on?
    For your information, CFF, I was a member of the Chicago Fire Department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmfireschool
    In the job announcement it states "only a percentage of those applicants taking the written examination will be eligible to participate in the additional steps of the hiring process"

    Somehow this test will be graded with the top scorers moving on.


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    Don't we wish. It didn't happen in 1995, when they used banded scores, and it sure as heck isn't going to happen with a "Pass/Fail", because there will not be a published score, rank order list. You will have to take the City's word for the fact that whoever passed, passed because they said so. And they'll deny any request for the list, even through Freedom of Information requests, because they'll claim privacy concerns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDean867
    For your information, CFF, I was a member of the Chicago Fire Department.
    FF or medic? Retired?
    I am a complacent liability to the fire service

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    without trying to sound racist, whats the chance of a white male being hired? The Chicago webpage says it wants minorities to apply so does that mean they will be chosen first?

    And whats the promitions like? Are qualified people passed over due to race and gender?

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