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    Default Pinkerton

    I worked for them as a investigator way back when...I was not inpressed, I quit and got a job with a real firm. From what I remember, they didn't want to pay mileage but wanted me to be all over the state (WIS) in my own car. I also remember the paying being real lousey. Now, I don't know. it's been 17 years since I worked for them. I guess all I can say is research them and the position. Try to get ahold of someone who is working for them now and see what they say....I hope things have changed.

    Good luck,

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    Folks the State Department is looking for a GS-0081 11/13 Fire Protection Specialist. You get to go all over the world and inpect the various post. Since it is a B billet it is not in the early retirement system. Goto www.OPM.gov and look under USA Jobs and search via the job series. 0081.


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    Gruntman,

    I looked at that web site and found jobs in Utah...only they want you to be a MAX of 37!...what a stupid restriction!

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    FIRE PROTECTION SPECIALIST

    SALARY RANGE: 52,468.00 - 97,213.00 USD per year OPEN PERIOD: Tuesday, December 27, 2005
    to Tuesday, January 10, 2006
    SERIES & GRADE: GS-0081-11/13 POSITION INFORMATION: Full Time Career/Career Conditional
    PROMOTION POTENTIAL: 13 DUTY LOCATIONS: 1 vacancy - Washington, DC
    WHO MAY BE CONSIDERED:
    U.S. Citizens

    JOB SUMMARY:
    Be the Face of America to the World! Get ready for the challenge of a lifetime! Some of the most interesting work is done by U.S. Department of State employees overseas and in Washington, D.C.




    This position is located in the Fire Protection Analysis and Field Engineering Branch, Fire Protection Division, Office of Operations and Maintenance, Overseas Buildings Operations (OBO). The incumbent of this position serves as a key participant in implementing criteria, policies and procedures for the systematic control of OBOs fire protection/prevention and life safety functions. This includes fire prevention inspections, special assessments, and training for all OBO Foreign Service posts for the purpose of providing basic life safety features, maintaining defined standards and criteria, instruction and training in fire safety skills, and adherence to codes and standards.

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    Default Lower paying?

    Eh guys. I'm not sure if I've talked to any of you about how much "lower paying" means- I do tend to see it around the sites quite often and Im trying to get some perspective on exactly what it means. If I get a chance to go over to Kuwait then I think that'd be great- having said that, when you say lower paying are you talking about below poverty line or are you talking about lower paying compared to other overseas contracts?

    For example- CSA looks like they're hiring international (read: I'm canadian) firefighters... where I know I've told some of you that i've been restricted by companies like WSI because I don't have my US citizenship. (And I have my opinion about that- not that it matters).

    Can you guys give me some idea as to what "lower paying" means?


    Thanks in advance. Oh, and by the way- Chief Gale, I have really enjoyed reading your posts- very informative in a number of different ways. You sort of remind me of my chief back here with my community hall. Thanks also to the others who have posted such helpful information for those of us looking into the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eno821
    Eh guys. I'm not sure if I've talked to any of you about how much "lower paying" means- I do tend to see it around the sites quite often and Im trying to get some perspective on exactly what it means. If I get a chance to go over to Kuwait then I think that'd be great- having said that, when you say lower paying are you talking about below poverty line or are you talking about lower paying compared to other overseas contracts?

    For example- CSA looks like they're hiring international (read: I'm canadian) firefighters... where I know I've told some of you that i've been restricted by companies like WSI because I don't have my US citizenship. (And I have my opinion about that- not that it matters).

    Can you guys give me some idea as to what "lower paying" means?


    Thanks in advance. Oh, and by the way- Chief Gale, I have really enjoyed reading your posts- very informative in a number of different ways. You sort of remind me of my chief back here with my community hall. Thanks also to the others who have posted such helpful information for those of us looking into the world.

    With respect,
    lower pay for kuwait is around $70,000 for the year plus a company paid apartment on the economy and a company paid car to travel back and forth to work in. you get to go site seeing or what ever it is you want to do off duty. why i turned that down to go to iraq i'll never know but i did. vinnell in riyadh saudia arabia offers a similiar pay and benefits, not sure about the car though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armyfiremn
    lower pay for kuwait is around $70,000 for the year plus a company paid apartment on the economy and a company paid car to travel back and forth to work in. you get to go site seeing or what ever it is you want to do off duty. why i turned that down to go to iraq i'll never know but i did. vinnell in riyadh saudia arabia offers a similiar pay and benefits, not sure about the car though.
    I presume that's in USD? That's at least what I'm making now, which would be great. What are the shifts like? Any idea? I've checked out the website and saw the openings- but there isn't a lot of information on the shift schedule etc. I'd really like to find one of those month in month out routines if only because I have some ties to my community department back home and would like to keep a foot in the door there. I suppose leaving for a year and reapplying may be possible as well- but being able to go back and forth would allow me to stay for longer. Any thoughts on the issue?

    thanks again.
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    armfiremn hey I applied for that marshall islands position. I sent them a resume there simple one then they contacted me to send them a another one laying out my experince and certs. I saw you work for them do you know if they are even looking to pick up more firefighters? Any info you can throw my way would be great.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jschmid
    armfiremn hey I applied for that marshall islands position. I sent them a resume there simple one then they contacted me to send them a another one laying out my experince and certs. I saw you work for them do you know if they are even looking to pick up more firefighters? Any info you can throw my way would be great.


    thanks JOsh
    josh
    that contract is always looking for firefighters that being said let me tell you from may of 04 to may of 05 i was only getting 9 bucks a hour. i did get paid for the full 24 hours i was on duty though. if you sign up for the contract you now have to commit for 2 years, i was fortunate enough to only have to do one. you are out in the middle of no where so mail is slow to get to you there aren't many tv channels to watch but that's not a problem because of all the other things you can do. you might be able to get your 2 level certs but you'll have to ask the training chief and i have his number if you need it. if you want any other certs and your do go out there i suggest you get them on your own and go thru randolph afb for them. if you want you can email me at armyfiremn@yahoo.com and i'll try to awnswer any questions you got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eno821
    I presume that's in USD? That's at least what I'm making now, which would be great. What are the shifts like? Any idea? I've checked out the website and saw the openings- but there isn't a lot of information on the shift schedule etc. I'd really like to find one of those month in month out routines if only because I have some ties to my community department back home and would like to keep a foot in the door there. I suppose leaving for a year and reapplying may be possible as well- but being able to go back and forth would allow me to stay for longer. Any thoughts on the issue?

    thanks again.
    it is u s dollars and if you email me at armyfiremn@yahoo.com i'll try to have some anwsers for you i got to go thru some paperwork but if i remember it's either 24 hours on 24 hours off or 48 hours on and 48 hours off.

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    Hi guys

    Sorry for not being around to pass on info. I have been in the house nightmare from hell in Cyprus..

    There is no phone service where I live so I have to travel an internet cafe just to get online.

    I will be going back to Afghabistan again.. I never heard back from WSI on my paperwork so I have to opt with plan B..

    I will be in Houston this coming weekend and if any of you want to grab a drink (after Tuesday) let me know and we can meet at one of the hotels.

    Also I will start to pass on additional contract information after Sunday. There are a lot things happening and I want to keep you guys informed.


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    Sorry to hear about the troubles, Chief. I'm sure there are going to be a lot of sad guys in the sandbox ... sounded like a lot of them were looking forward to working for you.

    PAE is looking for a Chief at Diego Garcia, if you're looking for a change from the combat zone. Sipping margaritas on the beach may be a nice change to freezing your *** off in the high desert...

    Look forward to more of your good information on the contract scene. It's really nice not to have to do all my own legwork.

    Fair Winds, sir.

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    Hello, new to firehouse, have been thinking about going to Iraq for a long time. I have decided to apply, just sent my resume. Any words of wisdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abaustin
    Sorry to hear about the troubles, Chief. I'm sure there are going to be a lot of sad guys in the sandbox ... sounded like a lot of them were looking forward to working for you.

    PAE is looking for a Chief at Diego Garcia, if you're looking for a change from the combat zone. Sipping margaritas on the beach may be a nice change to freezing your *** off in the high desert...

    Look forward to more of your good information on the contract scene. It's really nice not to have to do all my own legwork.

    Fair Winds, sir.
    Abaustin,

    No worries on the Iraq deal. I am sure also there may be some sad guys over in Iraq, but if they follow the words of wisdom from what I have posted before, they should fair out pretty well.

    I do not mind freezing my chee chee's off in the high desert. I have been in the bare cold for the past month and it may actually be refreshing.. I thought Cyprus was supposed to be warm.. what a lie that was.. I still love the island though..

    I was not aware that PAE was advertising again for Diego. I will get the word and contact information for those that may be interested.

    Well off to the business class lounge to relax until the next flight leg.. Yes, frequent flyer miles do pay off..

    Chief G

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    According to their web site (may or may not be accurate, but it's the closest thing that I have to a source. ) they are looking for both a Chief and Deputy. How's that for good timing ...

    Also, an unrelated note, since I haven't thought about it recently. When you are bouncing from contract to contract like you are, how do you deal with the GS081 restriction for 37 yoa? Does your previous time in federal service/contract count?

    Austin.

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    abaustin:

    The 37 year old age requirement is for Dod federal firefighters only. It is not
    part of Dod contract firefighter requirements...

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    Is that contract-dependant? I've seen a couple advertisements specifically stating the age limit for the contract. THe one that jumps to mind immediately is Kwajelein.

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    Default Age Limit

    Quote Originally Posted by abaustin
    According to their web site (may or may not be accurate, but it's the closest thing that I have to a source. ) they are looking for both a Chief and Deputy. How's that for good timing ...

    Also, an unrelated note, since I haven't thought about it recently. When you are bouncing from contract to contract like you are, how do you deal with the GS081 restriction for 37 yoa? Does your previous time in federal service/contract count?

    Austin.
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    The age limit is primarily set by DOD. If the contractor wants to follow the scope of the DOD policy they have the option to do that as most do. If there are hard to fill positions then they will seek a waiver from the QA. In my case as you pointed out jumping contracts, typically the age requirement will be lifted for senior officers and inspectors. Typically floor personnel need to meet the requirement.

    Hope this helps.

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    I Just Recently Became Real Interested In Contract Firefighting... Particularly In Kuwait. I Am Ifsac Ffii, Ifsac Haz-mat, And An Nremt-p. I Do Not Have Experience As A Military Firefighter Nor Do I Have My Arff. I Am Just Curious Whether Or Not I Have Any Chance At All To Get Hired Or Should I Just Say Stay Home And Try To Get Hired Full-time In The States. I Am Only 23 So I Dont Have Much To Tie Me Down. A Friend Told Me That Kbr Pays $120,000 In Kuwait. Is This True Or Is He Full Of Crap? Any Info Would Be Great. Thank You.

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