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    These attacks could be thwarted by a half dozen 50 Cal. machine guns and some determined gunners. Oh and a reasonable amount of ammo.


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    Reports now indicate a soviet style RPG did impact the ship, entered a stateroom, and failed to detonate, saying embedded in the deck.

    IMB piracy office in Kuala Lumpur sends out bi-weekly pirate activity to all ships via sat-com telex. The messages are focused to each major ocean region. these messages are similar to the one from CNN that RFC posted.

    As for weapons, we'd all love to arm ourselves better than the AK47 and better armed pirates, but unlike them, we are constrained by laws. But I will tell you, having a bunch of Marines onboard with a Ma Duece on the rail does give you allot of comfort in unsettled areas.

    I have always said that the day a group of pirates accidently attack a blue and yellow stack line's ship (US government owned or leased) will bring a whole lot of attention to pirates. A cruise ship is even better, but I never thought they'd be that brazen.

    Think about this. For them, getting home is easy, all they need is a compass, head west and once they see land, its easy from there. The harder part is finding a speck on the ocean, the ship. From that low in the water, you may be able to see a ship at 6 miles, 10 in optimum conditions. You are 100 miles offshore and you have to get within 6 miles of this ship to see it. It's the proverbial needle in the haystack.

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    Hey CR, does the name Leon Klinghoffer mean anything to you?
    Was he the invalid in a wheelchair that was pushed overboard some years ago?
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    Default Couple more updates

    Sun. Nov. 6 2005 11:53 PM ET
    The Seabourn Spirit was 160 kilometres off Somalia when two speedboats closed in on the vessel and opened fire with machine-guns and a rocket-propelled grenade.

    Dan McTeague on pirate attack.

    The Somali coast is known to be infested with pirates, who are becoming more and more brazen. Somalia has been without a functioning government since the 1991 ouster of dictator Mohamed Said Barre, and is now overrun by warlords.

    Pirates may have also attacked UN ship
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    A group of pirates that attacked a luxury cruise liner were likely responsible for seizing a UN vessel in June, a Kenyan official said Sunday.

    Andrew Mwangura, head of the Kenyan chapter of the Seafarers Assistance Program, told The Associated Press that the pirates are likely responsible for hijacking a UN-chartered vessel on June 27.

    The crew was held hostage for 100 days, until the ship ran out of fuel. It was on a humanitarian mission to Somalia, carrying food aid.

    Mwangura told AP the pirates likely belong to a group that operates along Somalia's 3,025-kilometre coastline.

    The latest incidence occurred early Saturday. The Seabourn Spirit was 160 kilometres off Somalia when two speedboats closed in on the vessel and opened fire with machine-guns and a rocket-propelled grenade.

    One Canadian witness said he first realized they were under attack while he was still in bed.

    "It was about 5:30 in the morning and we were awakened by the sound of what we figured out was bullets ricocheting off the side of the boat," Mike Rogers, from British Columbia, told CTV Newsnet.

    Rogers said the captain evaded the pirates by increasing speed and charging their two boats. The pirates then "scurried away," he said.

    Dan McTeague, the parliamentary secretary for Canadians abroad, believes there were 18 Canadian citizens and permanent residents aboard the vessel, which was carrying more than 300 passengers.

    None were hurt in the attack, although one crew member was slightly hurt by flying debris before the pirates were repulsed, said Seabourn Cruises.

    "It was quiet a harrowing experience, to say the least," McTeague said.

    "Right off the top, this was not something that one would expect on a voyage. But the ship's captain seemed to be both able and kept his crew and passengers well-informed of what was happening."


    The Bahamian-registered Seabourn Spirit suffered only minor damage. It was apparently hit by bullets, but it's unclear if the rocket-propelled grenade made contact.

    Americans and Britons were also believed to be on board the Seabourn Spirit, which was on a 16-day cruise out of Alexandria in Egypt.

    The Seabourn Spirit was on its way to Mombasa in Kenya when it was attacked. The cruise will instead end at the Indian Ocean islands of Seychelles on Monday.

    The Somali coast is known to be infested with pirates, who are becoming more and more brazen.

    According to the International Maritime Bureau (IMB), at least 23 hijackings and attempted seizures have been recorded off Somalia's coastline since mid-March.

    Two days ago, the World Food Programme (WFP) warned that such activity had hampered delivery of relief supplies to more than 500,000 people in the region.

    Due to its impact on tourism, the Seafarers' Assistance Programme (SAP) is planning to convene Monday to discuss this latest attack -- the first on a cruise ship off the Somalia coast.

    Somalia has been without a functioning government since the 1991 ouster of dictator Mohamed Said Barre, and is now overrun by warlords.
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    Ship's passengers recount attack by pirates
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    MAYE, Seychelles — A cruise liner that was attacked by pirates over the weekend docked safely in the Indian Ocean Monday after changing its course to escape.

    Passengers described their horror as pirates in speedboats chased their luxury cruise liner at sea, firing rocket-propelled grenades and assault rifles -- with smiles visible on faces otherwise hidden by ski masks.

    "I was scared, I was very scared," said Jean Noll of Florida. But her husband said the experience was not likely to deter them from enjoying another cruise. "We cruise all the time," Clyde Noll said.

    The Seabourn Spirit had been bound for Mombasa, Kenya, when it was attacked by pirates armed with grenade launchers and machine guns on Saturday about 100 miles off Somalia's lawless coast.

    The ship escaped by shifting to high speed and changing course.

    The gunmen never got close enough to board the cruise ship, but one member of the 161-person crew was injured by shrapnel, according to the Miami-based Seabourn Cruise Line, a subsidiary of Carnival Corp.

    After docking at the Seychelles, passengers boarded two buses for a tour of two of the resort islands and reporters were kept away.

    Most passengers were to continue from the Seychelles to Singapore, company officials said, although some who planned to tour Mombasa were to fly there Tuesday aboard a chartered plane.

    Relieved holiday-makers praised the ship's captain for foiling the attack that lasted for more than 90 minutes, during which pirates fired their weapons on the bridge and elsewhere in an effort to cripple the vessel.

    Some passengers were lucky to escape with their lives, said Charles Forsdick, from Durban, South Africa.

    A woman survived an explosion in her stateroom simply because she was taking a bath at the time. Others flung themselves to the floor to avoid bullets that were zipping through the ship, Forsdick told Associated Press Television News.

    "I tell you, it was a very frightening experience," WWII veteran Charles Supple, of Fiddletown, Calif., recalled by phone after the liner dropped anchor off the Seychelles.

    The retired physician and World War II veteran said said he started to take a photograph of a pirate craft, and "the man with the bazooka aimed it right at me and I saw a big flash.

    "Needless to say, I dropped the camera and dived. The grenade struck two decks above and about four rooms further forward," Supple said. "I could tell the guy firing the bazooka was smiling."

    Bob Meagher of Sydney, Australia, said he climbed out of bed and went to the door of his cabin shortly before 6 a.m. after hearing a commotion outside.

    "I saw a white-hulled boat with men in it waving various things and shooting at the ship -- at that stage it appeared to be rifle fire," he told Australian radio.

    "My wife said `look, they're loading a bazooka,' which we later discovered was called an RPG (rocket-propelled grenade) launcher."

    "There was a flash of flame and then a huge boom -- a terrible boom sound," he said, adding the grenade hit about 10 feet from where they were.

    The liner had been at the end of a 16-day voyage from Alexandria, Egypt.

    Australian Foreign Minister Alexander Downer said Monday that the attackers might have been terrorists. But others said the attack bore the hallmarks of pirates who have become increasingly active off

    Somalia, which has no navy and has not had an effective central government since 1991.

    Judging by the location of the attack, the pirates likely were from the same group that hijacked a U.N.-chartered aid ship in June and held its crew and food cargo hostage for 100 days, said Andrew Mwangura, head of the Kenyan chapter of the Seafarers Assistance Program.

    That gang is one of three well-organized pirate groups on the 1,880-mile coast of Somalia, which has had no effective government since opposition leaders ousted a dictatorship in 1991 and then turned on each other, leaving the nation of 7 million a patchwork of warlord fiefdoms.

    Somalia's Prime Minister Ali Mohamed Gedi has long urged neighboring countries to send warships to patrol Somalia's coast, which is Africa's longest and lies along key shipping lanes linking the

    Mediterranean with the Persian Gulf and Indian Ocean.

    U.S. and NATO warships patrol the region to protect vessels in deeper waters farther out, but they are not permitted in Somali territorial waters.

    The International Maritime Bureau has for several months warned ships to stay at least 150 miles away from Somalia's coast, citing 25 pirate attacks in those waters since March 15 -- compared with just two for all of 2004.

    The 440-foot-long, 10,000-ton cruise ship, which is registered in the Bahamas, sustained minor damage, the cruise company said. The liner, which had its maiden voyage in 1989, can carry 208 guests.
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    Ontario tourists praise captain of attacked ship
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    Three Cambridge, Ontario residents were onboard a cruise ship targeted by pirates over the weekend off the coast of Somalia.

    Travel agent Barbara Donaldson and her neighbours Gord and Celia Chaplin were on board the Seabourn Spirit as it was violently attacked Saturday morning.

    "All of a sudden I heard this incredible bang," Barbara Donaldson told CTV News. "I looked out the window and I could see these boats, with men in them, with rockets, a grenade launcher, and machine guns."

    Pirates wearing ski masks in speedboats chased the cruise ship firing rocket propelled grenades and assault rifles.

    After the first strike on the luxury liner, the captain ordered passengers and crew to huddle in the middle of the dining room for safety.

    "It was a very awful feeling, my stomach did a flip for sure," Donaldson said.

    The attack happened about 160 kilometres off the coast of Somalia. The pirates got very close to the ship, but didn't manage to climb aboard.

    The cruise ship is run by Seabourn Cruise Line, a unit of Carnival Corp. The company says one member of its 161-person crew was hurt by shrapnel.

    The captain managed to keep the attackers off his boat by outrunning them, and changing course.

    "He kept us informed very very well," Donaldson said. "He said what we're trying to do is not let these people get aboard this ship."

    The ship is registered in the Bahamas, and made its first trip in 1989. It's 440-feet long, and can carry 208 guests plus crew.

    According to Dan McTeague, the parliamentary secretary for Canadians abroad, it's believed more than 300 people were on board, of which 18 were Canadian citizens or permanent residents.

    This isn't the first case of piracy in Somali waters. In the past year Somali warlords have hijacked a number of United Nations and cargo ships.

    The Seabourn Spirit was headed for Mombasa, Kenya when it was attacked.

    The International Maritime Bureau says there have been 25 pirate attacks within 240 km. of Somalia's coast since March 15th. That compares to just two in 2004.

    The agency is warning ships to stay at least 240 km. away from shore.

    A travel agent who works with Donaldson says this is the first time she's heard of an attack on a luxury passenger ship.

    "Apparently in that area of the world these attacks are not entirely uncommon. I don't think they often target cruise ships," Michele Dickinson told CTV News.

    Somalia has been without a navy or effective central government since 1991 when opposition leaders ousted a dictatorship. The opposition leaders then turned on one another. What remains is a county with seven million people and a number of warlords.

    The country's Prime Minister Ali Mohamed Gedi has asked neighbouring countries to help patrol the coast. The shore is the longest in Africa, and follows main shipping routes connecting the Persian Gulf and Indian Ocean with the Mediterranean.

    NATO and American warships patrol the waters further from shore, but they're not allowed into Somali waters.

    On Sunday, a Kenyan official told the Associated Press the same group of pirates who attacked the cruise ship likely seized a United Nations ship in June.

    The ship was on a humanitarian mission to Somalia, carrying food. The crew was held for 100 days until the ship ran out of fuel.

    The Seabourn Spirit was on a 16-day cruise which started in Alexandria, Egypt and was wrapping up.

    The ship is now safely docked in the Seychelle Islands, in the Indian Ocean, off the east coast of Africa.

    After arriving, passengers boarded busses for tours of the islands, and reporters were kept away. Many passengers are going to head to Singapore from the Seychelles. But, others who planned to tour Mombasa will head to Kenya aboard a chartered plane.

    Since the attack, Seabourn officials have started re-evaluating their cruises traveling along the Somali coast.

    "I think that in the future, Seabourn and any other cruise lines, if they are going to come into this part of the world, are going to have to pay for escort service to come through these areas," Donaldson said.

    With a report from CTV's Nicole Lampa.
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    Was he the invalid in a wheelchair that was pushed overboard some years ago?
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    He was an ex-USN frogman murdered and tossed overboard by the hijackers of the ACHILLE LAURO. The ring leader of the plot, Abul Abbas, escaped in the aftermath. He was captured in 2003 in Iraq by US forces. He died in US custody. So it goes....

    PS. the Achille Lauro was a cursed ship. in addition to the hijacking she ran aground and met her end after suffering an Engine Room fire in the Indian Ocean.
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    Default I've been hearing about this since yesterday but couldn't find any mention online ...

    Cruise ship 'used sonic weapon'

    Tuesday, November 8, 2005 Posted: 1822 GMT (0222 HKT)

    Armed pirates approach the Seabourn Spirit, in a photo taken by British passenger Norman Fisher.
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    MAHE, Seychelles (AP) -- The crew of a cruise ship attacked by pirates off the coast of Somalia used a sonic weapon to help ward off the attackers, the Miami-based Seabourn Cruise Line said Monday.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/af....ap/index.html
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