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    Question National Guard Rescue

    I am not cutting down our National Guard but all of a sudden they are doing search and rescue in natural diasters, in North Dakota for a snow storm and now for tornados. In the past they have helped with security and clean up. Are we being replaced?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sklump
    Are we being replaced?
    No. We are being augmented by trained help with suitable equipment and vehicles. How many FDs have the manpower to cover as wide of an area as natural disasters affect? I wouldn't worry about it unless they start buying fire trucks.

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    Just look at it as mutual aid...they are there to help out, I mean if I was in those situations I wouldnt mind the extra help...
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    As long as they aren't trying to shut down the Bill of Rights like in NOLA recently.How many people were arrested for staying in their homes armed against looters versus those arrested for shooting at rescue helos?
    Anyway,I'd say use the Guard to transport supplies,medics and evacuees out,let the local police handle the L.E.end of it and the local fire dpeartments worry about putting out fires.
    The National Guard is part of the US Army,and subject to following Federal orders.Let the state and city governments handle the problem and show that they can't deal with itbefore having the Feds move in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doughesson
    The National Guard is part of the US Army,and subject to following Federal orders.Let the state and city governments handle the problem and show that they can't deal with itbefore having the Feds move in.
    The National Guard is a State resource controled by the Govenor until such time as they are activated by the DOD.

    The National Guard (Army and Air) have been helping with major incidents and disasters (Floods, Forest Fires, Blizards)for years in this part of the world.

    Their assistance ranges from transportation, aircraft, manpower, heavy equipment, etc, etc. And in most cases we (First Responders) appreciate it. And due to the fact the NG is made up of citizens, many are members for our respective organizations.
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    The National Guard has been making rescues in blizzards etc for years.
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    Most of you guys are such fans of having the state and local governments fund the fire service, I am surprised you are not all signing up! What else do you think a National Fire Service would look like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnyv
    I wouldn't worry about it unless they start buying fire trucks.
    The National Guard and in particular the Air National Guard have been purchasing fire trucks for as long as the military fire service has existed.

    Heck, I know of a Air Force reserve FD that is automatic mutual aid for nearby communities.

    Having said that, I don't feel any threat of being taken over by the military in my community and i don't see it as any kind of national trend. I see them asaugmenting the US fire service during major disasters.

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