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    Default You wanted an awesome ventilation video? HERE!

    This rocks. I am in the process of trying to save it. The music is from a band called "Social Distortion" and they rock. (www.socialdistortion.com)

    Enjoy-

    http://www.jusspress.com/day.php?use...entTime=115056


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    Awesome video.....and yes they are an awesome band too!!
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    Now that was just too cool.
    my xchief use to sing Ring of Fire....

    so of course I sent him the link

    Thanks for the great link!
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    I don't know what's so cool about that. I see firefighters falling through the roof, being on roofs they probably no longer need to be on, and running around like their heads are cut off.

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    I am trying to figure out how to save it. Anyone have any suggestions? I enrolled on to the site, but that didnt help at all.

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    Great video. I have seen most of the clips but the music makes it even better.

    Bou: The web site that you may be able to capture the video using screen virtuoso program. Other than that I had no luck in getting it either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics99
    I don't know what's so cool about that. I see firefighters falling through the roof, being on roofs they probably no longer need to be on, and running around like their heads are cut off.
    At least I'm not the only one who isn't finding the coolness in this.
    Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.

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    I think it's a great video. You can learn a few things from watching it (both what to do and what NOT to do). And Social D singing Johnny Cash?...Bonus! I give it 2 thumbs up.

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    I sure hope that the guys who fell through those roofs were ok afterwards...

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    Amazing, and sometimes scary video.
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    intense video and yes Social D is a great band !

    you can copy it with " Mr Captor " just google it , the quality isnt the best but it works here is a snipet i took of it and made a small gif file out of.

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    BFDNJFF- Can you please capture the whole thing for me with sound? I need to get a copy of this for my collection.

    Thanks, Bou

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    i am trying to figure out how i have some people working on it , i got it but cant get the sound in yet
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics99
    I don't know what's so cool about that. I see firefighters falling through the roof, being on roofs they probably no longer need to be on, and running around like their heads are cut off.

    I felt the same way. Although it's some good footage, there are a few clips that indicate just how fast things can go wrong.

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    Yo- In case your new to the fire service, firefighting is a bundle of errors made making the fire go out. Plus- remember you are only seeing a few seconds of film vs. knowing the whole situation involved.

    Going to several classes recently, the Instructor showed videos from across the nation and nothing was going perfect for any FD on these film takes. (The Art of Reading Smoke and First Due)

    As for the LA CITY guys, looks like they were doing multiple vents of very large, commercial buildings wearing full PPE including breathing air from their SCBAs. On the residental roof, they were not wearing their mask, but the smoke was moving away from them and the air was clear. Hmmmm...I see some of the other big FDs wearing the bottles, but never the bottom waist strap and never breathing out of the mask.

    NOTE- I am NOT an Expert in the area of roof ventilation, but I dont see any major errors being made in this video. Every time they make a cut, it seems to be doing the job because turbulent smoke is blowing out. So we know the need to vent was there. Lastly, we it comes to ventilation, I am going to be the last person to question LA CITY Fire, they do it weekly and are known the world over for this process.

    And, The shot of the two Firefighters falling flush into the house fire was from Phoenix, AZ. It is a perfect example of- "Theyre building homes to kill us with the trust construction." Fire Captain Ron Newport, Orange County Fire.

    Lastly- This video provoked conversation and can be learned from. A good tool that served its purpose.

    Be careful throwing the stones without checking your own backyard first.
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    It seems kinda odd making a 'cool music video' out of someone falling through a roof and probably severely injured or killed.
    Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BFDNJFF
    i am trying to figure out how i have some people working on it , i got it but cant get the sound in yet
    When you get it done, "hook a brother up". (Me)

    Thanks
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    What ever happened to one, large hole? Is it common for the LA guys to make a lot of small vent holes? Also, in the large commercial building fire clips, verticle ventilation was needed to support an interior attack, but you have to wonder if, based on the smoke and fire condidtions, they could even be sucessful offensively. Also, they do realize the turbulent smoke is soon to light up, yet they are operating in it...?

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    No, as far I know, it is not common for "the LA guys" (this is CITY, not county) to make mulitple holes. Looks like they cut what was needed to be done to properly vent the strucutre.

    I wasnt there and again am NOT an expert on ventilation, but to me, it looks like their cuts were justified because of the turbulent smoke venting at the exact time the cuts were made.

    I am just going off of what I see. Again- LARGE commercial building. Wal-Mart, home Depot sized, plus.
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    Itís an interesting video, with a great sound track.
    What it is not however, is a training video, period. Take it for what it is, entertainment. You canít criticize what they are doing. Why? Itís tidbits of video from a few fires put together, at least from my view point. I know for a fact that a part of it is from the city of Phoenix.
    You canít pass judgment on decisions made by fireman in the heat of the moment, using small snippets of video, or one picture, and so on, as your sole source of information.

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