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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie
    And the SAFER grants will end up being the same as the COPS grants - no net increase in staffing in the grand scheme of things. Just look at the town in Wisconsin that returned the money. I'll bet that they will not be the only town to do so.

    Like ****ing in the wind.
    Yup, our LEO's that were hired based on COPS are no longer LEO's. Grant ran out, they were let go. It's just another "vote for me" because I did something for now with no planning for the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42
    Actually, the Wisconsin grant was returned because the town realized it had not budgeted for all the future expenses involved with hiring the FF's and knew they could not afford it in the long run. Remember, the SAFER grant is a 5 year committment. Not a 1 year tool.
    Exactly the point, you have to budget for a large increase of personnel, benefits, and budget. And you have to keep these guys on after the grant. Essentially it turns out that most of the time I will bet that retirements will just go unfilled for a short bump in manpower that decreases in the long term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42
    Yup, our LEO's that were hired based on COPS are no longer LEO's. Grant ran out, they were let go. It's just another "vote for me" because I did something for now with no planning for the future.
    Most of the places I know of just did not fill retirements, as I mentioned in my prior post.

    Yup, great use of those FEDERAL tax dollars.
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