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    Question Structural departments and wildland fires!

    What type of wildland fire training is require by your department?

    In Kentucky all structural firefighters are required basic wildland firefighting training!
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    In the great state of arkansas vol. ff take a 8 hour close as required to be a vol. Paid ff get a 16 hour class in rookie school. Other then that the training ends. But out here its all OJT. But if you got a good training officer you'll get some good training.. We can also go take USFS classes..(if you can find 1)

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    Almost all of the areas where we used to have brush fires now have houses selling from $600K to $1.5 million on them!

    We do have a brush fire unit..a former military Humvee with a 250 gallon slide in tank/pump unit.
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    No training is "required" by the local authority, but since we do fight a lot of brush and small wildfire, we do provide regular training on the topic.

    We run a fill S100 (Red Card for the Yanks) course every second year, and conduct at least 10 hours of annual refresher training for everyone.

    In addition, our senior members and officers train on wildland-urban interface tactics, including structure triage and site preparation in advance of a wildfire front.

    This is the training that is "recommended" by both the forest service, and the fire commissioner.
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    What training, that was what he asked, not the price of houses and your hummer..

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    We do a fair number of brush fires. In fact, we do about a 100 a year, which is more than all of our other fires combined. There is no state requirement for wildland training, but as a department we have at least 2 training sessions nights a year dedicated to wildland ops and it's a part of the rookie checkoff sheet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benlewis60
    would you settle for the local street price of a hummer?
    I hear over in Sicamous, that's about 5 bucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcaldwell
    I hear over in Sicamous, that's about 5 bucks.
    Is that in US or Canadian dollars?
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    Thats 5 male deer you knucklehead, don't you know canada is still on a barter system?


    As to the original question I'm not really in a position to say, I work for a wildland department so we have lots of wildland training.

    However if you want my opinion if it were up to me all firefighters would get S130 basic wildland FF, S190 intro to wildland fire behavior, & I-100 intro to ICS, officers would also get S131 Advanced firefighter & S290 Intermediate wildland fire behavior. It would only add 40 hours to firefighters and another 40 hours or so for officers, not much compared to all the time spent in EMS and structural training. Even for those departments with little or no wildland the way things are going it is just a matter of time before they start going on strike team assignments.

    The S130, S190 & I100 is pretty common for the structural departments in California, not a state requirement but fairly standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcaldwell
    I hear over in Sicamous, that's about 5 bucks.

    5 bucks? damn buddy, you need to stop hanging out at the Husky. You're getting ripped off. Out on the lake you can get one for the price of a jello shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcaldwell
    I hear over in Sicamous, that's about 5 bucks.
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    We are not required, but since we have many brush/grass/woods fires, many of us have taken the S130, S190 & I100 series from the Texas Forestry Service. I also think that it should be standard training for all ff. In my humble opinion.... OJT is not an appropriate way to learn firefighting of any kind. Well that's all for now, off to more training. Bye.
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    S130 and S190 are the very bones minimal here. Note the "S" stands for "skill". Wildlanf fire control is part of the state's FF1 training.

    Moreover, we are more focused on the "Interface Zone" aka "I-Zone". This is the residental homes in the wildland zone.

    Get loads of more info. here- www.fire.ca.gov

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    The classes I went through had one specific class (about 12 hours) that was just about wildland fires. I thought that it would be a waste of time for the district I am in.

    However, with the drought that North Texas is currently in, we have had several fires lately that would be classified as wildland. Although they weren't as big as other places may see, 30-70 acres on fire here is definitely out of the norm. All the things we learned a while back in that one class, really gave me some knowledge of what to do and expect. One class could never teach you what you need to know, but at least it familiarizes you with basic tactics and safety.

    I've only been in the fire industry for almost 2 years, so it was something new. I just wonder how it would have gone if we were having to learn on the job. Not a situation I would have liked to be in.

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    Default At least in my part of the county...

    Nothing required here. There is a very short discussion in basic FF about it. There is also some training offered by the counties on wildland urban interface.
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    Nothing required.

    My school offers the classes, so I took them anyway. Never know if you'll need it.

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    We get the basics from DOF as part of our state certification. Or at least we used to. I would assume they still do. Its been so long I dont recall how much, maybe 16 hours.
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    We require all FF to be "Red Card" carriers. It's a 16 hour course the first time, 4 hour refresher each year. The hard part is the pack test: walk 3 miles in 46 minutes (we get one extra because we are at 6500 ft) wearing a 45 pound pack.
    We contract with the sate land department to get paid (per FF & truck) for any wildfire we go on. We also had a crew at the largest wildland fire in the state, the 2002 Rodeo-Chedeski Complex.
    Edited to add: We get paid by the state for ANY wildland fire: State land, private land, any fire could spread to state land, so they pay us for all of them! Works well, helps with our expenses.

    If there is any chance for a wildland fire in your response area, or general area, I reccomend the basic wildland class. Without it, there are lots of ways to get hurt or killed on a Wildland or Urban Interface fire.
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    Half day of classroom to have the answers for the written FFII test, no practical app.

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    Every spring my department puts on a s-130/s-190 and I-100 class. My fire chief is a supervisor for the Missouri Department of Conservation in the forestry department and used to run a dozer for wildland fires. My department also has a regional wildfire strike team that I am also a member of. We do not do that much training and most of it is live burns at conservation areas helping out the MDC guys.
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    Training other than FF1 is not required, some of us have taken the 16hr course. Forestry will give you a red or green card depending on if you take the test with the 45lb pack.
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    I think all the fire fighters coming out of training have their red card.

    That's pretty basic stuff. Most of the experience in gained by OJT.

    Lot of interface here in the hill country.

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    Dennis, with all due respect, there is a lot more involved than using a shovel. I have seen too many pictures of FF standing at the head of a chute (ravine) with a 1" hose, trying to stop a wildfire.

    BTW, my wife is from Prineville, OR. They lost most of a highly trained Hot Shot Crew on the Storm King Fire. If it can happen to them, it can happen to you! Get some training if there is a chance you will be at a wildfire.

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