There is an issue in my post right now about which trucks we are allowed to ride on. We just got to where we are actually able to ride out but now some people are having problems with it. Most everyone is ok with it but some are upset. Just wondering which trucks your posts are allowed to ride out on. Right now it looks like we may be narrowed down to the Tanker and Squad. I dont see a problem with an Engine or second or third run brush trucks if there is a command already set up. Besides all we have is engines, brush trucks, tanker and a squad. But, any way just wondering.
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12-07-2005, 06:41 PM #1Forum Member
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Which trucks can your post ride out on?
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12-07-2005, 07:36 PM #2Forum Member
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My fire company lets any junior memeber 16 or older ride out on any of our trucks; tankers, pumpers, and rescue trucks
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12-07-2005, 08:31 PM #3Forum Member
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Anything and everything baby!
Ladder, Heavy Rescue, Tankers, Engines, Brush Trucks, Squad, ATV's...you name it, we can respond with it!
One company over is under 18 you can only ride on the rescue and have to be 18 for any other truck.
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12-07-2005, 09:00 PM #4Forum Member
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Im talking about specifically junior firefighters under 18. Originally we could ride on any truck.
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12-07-2005, 10:59 PM #5
at my department, we (juniors 16-17yrs old) can respond on any of the trucks, engine, ladder, rescue, tanker, squad (must have your EMT first), everything.
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12-07-2005, 11:53 PM #6Forum Member
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The Juniors at my Volunteer Company basically can ride out on any piece providing there is a seat open. We have Two Engines {One which is an Engine/Rescue} a ladder and a light rescue / utility. It is perfered that the juniors ride out on the utility but much as the case we usually have open seats on the other pieces. If a senior member comes in at the last minute he / she can "bump" that junior from the truck but usually it doesn't happen.
I'm a career firefighter for a mainly volunteer department where again basically the same rule applies for thier juniors. They are to don thier gear and place them-selves by the passenger side of the responding apparatus and await the OIC to give them permission to get on. General Rule is one Junior per truck but I've driven out with more than one junior but no less than a qualified crew of interior firefighters. I say if the seat{s} are open jump on and join the effort. One day you will be certified interior guys and girls and you should get the exposure now while you can.
Just be safe and use common sense when you do it.
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12-08-2005, 08:09 AM #7
We get to use a heavy squad for alot of our training. In the case of a real call, we do not ride out on the apparatus to the calls unless specified by the Chief or IC. Chances of this ever happening are slim, so yeah, that'd be no trucks that we can ride out to calls on.
Just because it's called a throw bag, doesn't mean you throw the whole bag... you're supposed to hold onto the rope.
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12-08-2005, 10:53 AM #8
Almost, any and every one, with basic training. but some require specific training, like the brush truck or the boat.
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12-08-2005, 02:27 PM #9Forum Member
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depends..
we are allowed to ride on Engines and Trucks. We are not allowed to ride with any Chiefs or Paramedic Vans. Most Trucks in the department i am in only seat 4 people, and there are only a couple trucks out of our MANY to seat 3, and those are slow stations so i dont bother...I prefer to ride on paramedic engines(4 people on engine-6 seats total) that way i get to see and do more skills that have to do with the patient. Engines in my department that are just BLS have only 3 people-with 6 seats. I like riding on 3-man engines because i get my own jumpseat but those rigs dont stay onscene very long because they hand the scene over to the personel on the medic van or engine.
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12-08-2005, 03:41 PM #10
None.
RFRDxplorer, when did that change? I thought you could go on anything.
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12-08-2005, 03:56 PM #11Forum Member
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we aren't able to ride anything except in the cheifs car for now. there are some officers in the dept trying to get that changed though
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12-08-2005, 06:05 PM #12
Originally Posted by ffexpCP
It's been that way since I got on. Theoretically, it is possible. In reality, it will never happen.Just because it's called a throw bag, doesn't mean you throw the whole bag... you're supposed to hold onto the rope.
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12-08-2005, 06:16 PM #13
Originally Posted by RFRDxplorer
that really sucks, if there is an extra seat on the apparatus and you have the training required/even know whats on the truck, i would think its better to fill the empty seat with a junior than just leave with it still emptyNJ FFII/EMT-B
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12-08-2005, 08:10 PM #14
Originally Posted by Slaytallica45
Yeah it would be nice, but it's alright with me. But our dept doesn't roll a truck unless they have enough guys or they are told to bring out the truck without being fully staffed.Just because it's called a throw bag, doesn't mean you throw the whole bag... you're supposed to hold onto the rope.
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12-09-2005, 12:43 AM #15MembersZone Subscriber
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our Explorers are allowed to ride in any empty seat after they have taken a test on that truck showing that they would be able to help should it be needed. they can always be bumped by a full member or the officer on that vehicle. they are never allowed to ride in the ambulance or on medical calls that require/request the chase vehicle for backup.
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12-10-2005, 11:46 AM #16Forum Member
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When I was an Explorer at the fire department in the big city where I grew up, they wouldn't even consider allowing us to ride out on anything. In fact, the firefighters had very little to do with us at all.
Now that I'm the chief of a small fire & EMS district department, I allow my explorers to ride on any company, provided there is a seat available, limit of 1 explorer per company. In hindsight, I would have given my left "you-know-what" to have that opportunity when I was an explorer.
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12-11-2005, 01:22 AM #17Forum Member
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the dept. where I'm an explorer at allows us to ride out on everything except the chief's cars.
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We ride on the Engine , Truck and ( Ambulance 18 and older with an EMT or CPR card ) as long as we get the training we're good to go .
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12-11-2005, 08:49 AM #19MembersZone Subscriber
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When I first started as an expl. about 6 years ago (im fully cert. now and a firefighter in iraq) we got to ride every truck we had. We have a small dept. back home, but we had 2 engines 3 boxes and 2 bruck trucks. If they had an open seat we got on. If they were full we got on the next truck in. It just all depends on the fire dept. you are on with. In some cases it does make sense for an officer or crew to say stay. But where I came from there were a few guys who thought we didnt belong and were there just to wash trucks, sweep and mop ect. Looking back I cant say I think I enjoyed doing all the free labor. Im glad I got to have an active ride with the FD at such an early age. I got to do everything but make an interior attack, so I was happy. They always told me it was a privilege, not a right to be there. I hated that. You are going to have those people. If you get to go to a fire, then be happy. If you get to be on the first in comp. be very happy. If you have to stay at the station and help clean when the trucks get back, cant say be happy, lol, but maybe next time. I wont tell you to just suck it up and take it if stuff happens like that. I dont think it is right for the paid guys to treat the younger guys like they sometimes do. But they have paid dues to get where they are. Firefighters are some of the most ugly people when it comes to firefighting and exploring. Im for it, others are not. Hope that everyone gets a good ride and has a good time.
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12-11-2005, 10:19 AM #20Forum Member
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here in my dept you must know where every tool is on every truck before you can ride out on it. you must also pass a written exam with an 80%too. we have 17 pices of appuratus and are allowed to ride out on any of them. we have 3 engines,4rescues/ambulances, 3 brush trucks, 1 heavy rescue, 1 squad, 1 tanker, 1 staff car, 1 utillity, and 2 cheifs cars. we can also respond with ff's in their pov's.
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