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    Smile Question on RIT Packs in this years AFG Grants

    Does anyone have a list or have knowledge of a list of eligible equipment that can be purchased with the RIT bags. When I wrote the grant I thought it would be just the RIT Cylinder, hoses and a few small hand tools. I have some guys in my department wanting to put on ropes, pulleys, axes... I won't even go into the fact the bag would be too big at that point ot carry in with you. I have emailed my grant specialist but have not heard back yet. Any help would be appreciated.

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    I smell "shopping cart approach" here! A sure fire grant killer. Spring for the smaller tools with your own funds and keep your list on the "high priority" items. Every one of those low priority items brings your overall score down a little and that is something you should avoid at all costs. Why risk a $25,000 grant for the sake of $100.00 in tools? "Needy , not greedy!"
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    Kurt, I think you misunderstood me. I already have the grant. I was awarded $4,000 each for 2 RIT Packs and $5,000 each for 18 new SCBA. After shopping we had Scott come in at about $2,500 each for the RIT Packs. Some of my Chief's wanted to purchase the extra equipment without dipping into the $5,000 pot of leftover money claiming it is part of the RIT pack expense. I have about $12,000 leftover from my SCBA purchase. Since I am the one that wrote the grant, I want to try and verify what is eligible. I don't feel like having DHS knocking on my door for misappropriation of funds. Sorry if there was any confusion.

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    If you already got the funding, then other than what you asked to be included, it's up to you what to put in it. Although anything outside of what you asked for has to be included in an amendment if you're using grant funds to buy it. And that does dip into the $5K limit.

    And as someone who's been involved with RIT for many moons, IMHO the RIT bag is spare SCBA cylinder, short ropes, door chocks and other small simple items. Hand tools are carried by the team going in, and if more tools are needed, other teams bring them in. First team in needs to be light and quick. Their only purpose is to get in quick and find the downed FF and get him/her on the 60min bottle if needed. If they can do a rapid extract, great, if not, the 2nd in team brings whatever other tools the first team says they need. Don't weigh down the initial team.

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    Sorry for the misunderstanding on that. I find it incredible though that they awarded you at $5K apiece for SCBA. That is the highest I have heard this whole year.
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    I just heard back from DHS. They told me that a RIT pack consists of what the OEM supplies. In my case the Scott unit comes with the 60 minute cylinder, mask, air hoses and the bag itself. According to DHS, the other tools must come out of the excess funds. I was thinking about hiding maybe few small tools (good pair wire cutters, small biel tool) in there with it though. Anyway, it looks like the ropes, pulleys, axes are out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ktb9780
    Sorry for the misunderstanding on that. I find it incredible though that they awarded you at $5K apiece for SCBA. That is the highest I have heard this whole year.
    I requested $5,500 and they knocked me down to $5,000. When I put the grant together I got list pricing from Scott, MSA and ISI. I took the high end and entered it under the old philosophy of ask for more get more. It was also for 45 minute high pressure SCBA's which do cost a little more. It made it much easier buy what we wanted with the feeling that price was not a major factor as far as options go. We did not however go with every bell and whistle. Just the ones that we felt we would use (voice amplifiers, carrying cases). As I stated earlier, we do have a significant amount of money left over (more than $10,000).

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    Well, the smaller tools are out as far as being included in the original grant but, you could always ask for them in the amendment with the "cost savings" $5K.
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