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    Default Most Important Fire Service Innovation of the Past 100 Years

    In your opinion, What is the most influential/important fire service innovation/invention of the past 100 years?
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    Talking my 5 cents- chefs are expensive you know

    I would have to say The NFPA.

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    The Internal Combustion Engine.

    Horse drawn Seagrave Engines and Hand powered Pumps in 2005.
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    Kiwi beat me to it.

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    My initial reaction to this is to advise you to keep reading the fire engineering magazine that you got this question out of - but if people are going to take it seriously, I will go with an airpack.

    All other inventions - fire apparatus and everything that goes with them - internal combustion engines, pumps, fancy lights, sirens, paint schemes, reflective striping; turnouts; nozzles; hoses, pike poles, haligan bars, thermal imaging cameras etc. would be useless without airpack that allow us to enter environments to do our jobs. With out airpacks, all the best stuff in the world would be useless except to sit in the yard and lob water through the windows like days of old. There you have it. Airpacks.
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    I say the spare MACK engine, since the new ones dont hold up like the Macks....LOL

    But if you want a serious answer....SCBA.
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    SCBA / PPE. Kind of group that as one "item".
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    Default Scba

    I agree, SCBA!!
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    SCBA / PPE. Kind of group that as one "item".

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    Memphis,

    This is not out of Fire Engineering, it is to write a paper about for english class. Sorry I did not specify that in my first post, I was rushing out the door and I posted. I can see where you were coming from.

    BTW, IMHO, it would have to be the SCBA
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    I have to agree...SCBA.

    Because of them, rescuers can save the lives of not only countless victims that otherwise would surely die due to help not being able to reach them in time, but they also save (and lengthen) the lives of countless firefighters that would quickly succome to the toxins and smoke they would otherwise have to eat. Especially with the introduction in the past few decades, of so many synthetics and plastics that are used to make virtually everything we use.




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    Quote Originally Posted by RFRDxplorer
    In your opinion, What is the most influential/important fire service innovation/invention of the past 100 years?
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    Nope on the SCBA.

    Internal Combustion Engine.

    Without "Da Motor" ya don't gets to da fire fast enough to need the damn SCBA.

    And you sure as heck would NOT have enough water to do any damn good inside for any victims.

    Unless you had 4 "Arnies" on the hand pump. "Ja, Arnie Four, Pump Fazta, Das vaser ist gut."

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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods
    After a great deal of thought,....... Me .......
    They asked for the last 100 years.... Not since the start of firefighting.
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    I thought a lot about it, I started to agree that it had to be SCBA. But then again I fought fires for years before we had SCBA, and let me say first, I ,as most on here know am the worst to preach SCBA, but I think the most intovative tool in the past 100 years Is the adjusible fog nozzel, We preserve water,less property damage, less strain on attact crew, protection for the crew, can push fire back, as in a fuel fire, we can aproach a lpg tank before it blows, we can wash out under a car from a long distance, then approach it with the protection of the fog, then adjust the pressure, and gpms. Any one disagrees, do the same with a 1 3/4 and a straight bore nozzel.
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    I agree with Ian, it would have to be the internal combustion engine. Maybe if i took a step back and said non-steam powered engines. Without the electric engine that charges your metal bottles, your BA is useless
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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods
    After a great deal of thought,....... Me .......


    LOL! Should I write the paper on how Chief Woods is the greatest innovation of the pst 100 years for the fire service?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Res343cue
    They asked for the last 100 years.... Not since the start of firefighting.

    Ouch! That is harsh.
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    SCBA then CAFS.

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    Hehe,I think I'll second Harve,T.C.

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    Have to agree with SCBA/PPE

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    Ok, honest question. Was SCBA really an "innovation" of the fire service? or was it existing technology that was simply slightly modified for FF use? Let's go a little deeper and see if we can come up with things the fire service has actually created, not modified. Most common I can think of is the Haligan bar. Created by FF and in use by most likely 95% of all fire departments. Many FF will swear by it's importance as their tool of choice.
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    Thumbs up That's It..........

    Motion by Bones, seconded by Harve, That we declare the Halligan Tool as the Winner. Any Discussion?
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    I agree.

    A Halligan on a truck with an Internal Combustion Engine is a marvelous invention.
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    Original question: "In your opinion, What is the most influential/important fire service innovation/invention of the past 100 years?"

    KIWI says: "The Internal Combustion Engine."

    KIWI again says: "Nope on the SCBA. Internal Combustion Engine."

    And again: "A Halligan on a truck with an Internal Combustion Engine is a marvelous invention."


    My dear Kiwi, please reread the question and then see below:


    "One of the most important landmarks in engine design comes from Nicolaus August Otto who in 1876 invented an effective gas motor engine. Otto built the first practical four-stroke internal combustion engine

    As you can see, the Internal Combustion Engine was invented 130 years ago, thus making it an invalid response to the question posed.

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    The internal combustion engine was NOT an innovation of the fire service. The fire service merely adapted it for their specific needs. I suppose the same could be said for the SCBA.


    Perhaps then, it's automatic sprinkler systems...A true fire service innovation.

    What about automatic detection devices such as smoke and heat detectors?

    Maybe radio dispatch?

    Hmmmmm.




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