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    Not sure were to place this thread, so I'll put it here. My department is looking into getting the Powercall Siren, it has come up several times that the siren is not NFPA compliant. However no one has been able to provide any sort of proof stating whether it is true or not. If anybody has any information about the siren, please post it.

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    Well, I do not know this to bew fact, but I would have to speculate that they are NFPA compliant because you get get them installed direct form the manufacturer on new apparratus orders. I cannot imagine that any apparatus manufacturers would leave themselves open for liability by installing equipment that was not NFPA compliant.
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    We recently bought a new tower-ladder. The manufacturer of the truck told us that the powercall we requested was indeed non-compliant because it was not loud enough. They installed it anyway because we also had a Q on the truck and the Q was compliant. The Q satisfied the NFPA requirements for the truck, and the powercall was OK because it was over and above NFPA.

    I find it hard to believe that Powercall would make a non-compliant product, but that is what we were told and we took it at face value without researching it any further. I really didn't pursue the matter because the Q is all I ever use any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beastie35
    Not sure were to place this thread, so I'll put it here. My department is looking into getting the Powercall Siren, it has come up several times that the siren is not NFPA compliant. However no one has been able to provide any sort of proof stating whether it is true or not. If anybody has any information about the siren, please post it.

    Thanks for all the help...
    The Powercall is an invention from this area, also known as the "D.C." siren, since Washington D.C. used them since day one. EVERYBODY around here has them, and as such, I prefer something else. We also have Qs on almost everything as well. BTW, as to the NFPA, who cares? We sure as hell don't.
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    Still a big fan of the Unitrol Touchmaster. Very reliable, heavy duty and popular in the police and fire services.


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    I will have to disagree with a Q being louder than a Powercall. Have passed our first out engine that has both, and could hear the Powercall over the Q!! yes it was wound out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARH176
    I will have to disagree with a Q being louder than a Powercall. Have passed our first out engine that has both, and could hear the Powercall over the Q!! yes it was wound out.
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    You have to remember though that a powercall is still an electronic siren. It's been proben that the soundwaves from mechanical sirens (the Q) penetrate modern automotive metals than the soundwaves of electronic sirens.

    My school company has them on most of our trucks. I used to hate them, but they've grown on me. The one thing that was really annoying though, was when we first got them, that's all anyone would use, not Q, no airhorn. Our engine has the best set-up, Q, air horns, Powercall, and Federal Electronic. Set all of them going, and it sounds awesome!

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    Do a search. I do think that this has been talked about before with many replies.

    As far as these coming from the factory, so what. Don't think the factory will install a warning device that isn't legal or compliant. The motorized Q is the right to go. Will out perform any electronic any day, any time!
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    I am telling you...Get the Touchmaster AND the Q. Here is what I mean...

    http://www.youtube.com/?v=9-tnmqqmjo0

    Or get the dual Touchmasters...

    http://www.youtube.com/?v=gXnTFN1wD9E
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    Iíve been using a PowerCall for about a year now. I think itís as loud as any other siren. I chose it because of itís unique sound. (Gotta be different) I think the powercall tone is very effective on moving traffic. The wail and yelp tones are just plain wrong. They sound like something from a toy box.

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    our powercalls are 100w. How are they any different than any other 100w siren?

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    Quote Originally Posted by quint1officer
    our powercalls are 100w. How are they any different than any other 100w siren?
    The original GE Powercalls, not the ones being manufactured by Sho-Me for www.powercallsirens.com, are rated at 58W. Maybe not the 100W standard, but they sure sound a hell of a lot better than the new ones!

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    I am not sure everyone is talking about the same thing. The original powercall was manufactured by GE. As stated it was rated at 58 Watts. I think it would drive a 75 Watt speaker.

    Recently, within a couple of years powercall sirens has started their own line (manufactured evidently by Show-me), they formerly just remanufactured the original GE's. Whelen also has a model out that has the "powercall" sound.

    So....I am not sure which ones everyone are talking about. I would imagine that the new ones would be NFPA compliant, but who knows.

    Bou....we run the Touchmaster with dual amplifiers here. There good, but I still wish had a "Q"!! As a matter of fact, I am on a quest.
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    WOOH WOOH WOOH WOOH WOOH!!!!! I do like the WARBLE and the Q, LT. KRAMER!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods
    The Powercall is an invention from this area, also known as the "D.C." siren, since Washington D.C. used them since day one. EVERYBODY around here has them, and as such, I prefer something else. We also have Qs on almost everything as well. BTW, as to the NFPA, who cares? We sure as hell don't.
    Thats funny. Where I used to volunteer in MS they were known as the Rankin SO siren, cause they used them from the time they first came out, in Tennessee they are the THP siren cause they used them too. Maybe thats why the worldwide company, GE called them the powercall. I would imagine they were created to be sold to anyone who would buy them. Why would anyone in MS or TN use a "DC" siren? =)
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    Geez- Look into a Touchmaster. Your fellow volunteers will be jealous. And they are not as cheap looking as the Powercall.

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