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    Quote Originally Posted by needlejockey
    why would you drink it?
    well he said from a RV water tank they put it in there. I know they have different tanks such as used water or grey tanks or however you call it. I dont mean drinking it from a fire extinguisher. I mean with the RV antifreeze in the water tank of an RV is that water safe to drink? Just curious as I dont really do much with RVs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firebuffE12
    I did a search and could not really get an answer of what i wanted and it made me think of some new questions. Since soap could damage some parts of a fire engine could it hurt any part of a fire extinguisher?? How much soap should be added to the 2 1/2 gallon extinguisher?? How can you keep a H2O extinguisher from freezing when stored in your POV during the winter. Temps usually dont get below 0. Thought of antifreeze but thought it was flammable?? Any suggestions? Thanks.
    I have never heard of soap damaging a rig or an extinguisher. However, we don't use soap. We use about 6-10 ounces of AFFF foam in our "Foam Pressurized Water" extinguishers. Fill the extinguisher to about 1/2, slowly add 6-10 ounces of AFFF, then VERY SLOWLY add the remaining water. I am not sure how much soap should be added to get the same effect, and I have no experience with Class A foam in the extinguisher.

    To keep a water extinguisher from freezing you can either keep it inside the cab or add a couple of ounces of anti-freeze to the extinguisher. I have never heard of it lighting up when you go to use it. Just to be safe, don't use a lot. A very little will keep 2 1/2 gallons from freezing. You definately don't want so much that water coming out is green or it probably will light up.

    Not breaking balls here, but I would think that Calcium Chloride or anything with the words "Sodium", Calcium or other chemicals ending in "ide" would probably corrode the components of the extinguisher.

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    Igot: What is a water cannon? And What do tou use it for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IGotTheJumpSeat
    I'm certified by my state as a portable extinguisher tech. I've never heard of anyone wanting to put soap into a water extinguisher.

    Really? Hmmm, the department I work for has been putting soap in them since before I started ('83) and as far as I know, so do all the other area departments. I thought it was something everybody did.

    We put a tablespoon or two in 2.5 gallons of water. Weve also tried class "A" foam but found it didnt work any better then the soap for the few times we use it for fires. We mainly use our water extinguishers for cleaning up after trauma calls, so its a waste of money to use foam.

    Cant help with the freezing question, rarely gets that cold here.

    And no, it doest cause any problems with the "workings" of the extinguisher. The can on our '84 reserve pumper works as good today as it did when new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjlffire
    Igot: What is a water cannon? And What do tou use it for?

    Water cannon = water extinguisher. Just laymans terms.
    I've used them to put out small class A fires and to squirt people at the station with...LOL

    Dave1983,
    Honest, i've never heard of putting soap in a 2.5 Gal. water. Our station puts AFFF in with the water. We have more foam than we'd use in 15 years so we're really not wasting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IGotTheJumpSeat

    Dave1983,
    Honest, i've never heard of putting soap in a 2.5 Gal. water. Our station puts AFFF in with the water. We have more foam than we'd use in 15 years so we're really not wasting it.
    If you have a gas station, then you may need all of that foam. It's not just for structure fires ya know.
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    not ff here but my guess is i would not drink anti freeze i herd use rv anti freeze but i guess would need to find one that is non flammable of course.

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    Default Just use antifreeze

    We just add a small amount. Couple of tablespoons. Never really had a problem.

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    Thumbs up OK, Here's The Deal.......................

    Go to any Store like WalMart, Find RV Antifreeze, READ THE LABEL. After reading the label, go home and put 2.5 Gallons of RV Antifreeze into your Water Extingusher. Add a cup of liquid dish soap or a half cup of class A Foam, pressurize with air, put it in your vehicle. Live happily ever after.

    I have an RV, and temps get down to Zero f. a few nights each winter here. I have never had a problem with RV Antifreeze, it does not corrode, rust, dust, crack, chip, or peel. It also stays in a liquid state, down to about -30f. It can be ingested by humans and animals with no ill effects, it is not flammable. We use RV Antifreeze at my shop for winterizing our Brush Trucks and other pumps. Never had a problem there either. So, as far as I'm concerned, go for it.
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    i thought i read certain ones were flammable any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abdulcroft
    i thought i read certain ones were flammable any ideas?
    Like I said above - Read the Label. RV Antifreeze, by law, must be capable of being ingested by humans and animals without harming them. This means that you can drink it. I don't like the taste though. Only flammable liquid that you can drink is Alcohol, and to be of any use as an antifreeze, the alcohol content would be so high that the RV folks would be buying it by the fifth, not a gallon.
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    I have a better solution. My chiefs car has a thermometer that kicks the remote starter on once the cab temp gets below 25 degrees. No can-cicles yet.

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    I've got one of them fancy car starters too.Blonde and not only can she start the car,she's a pretty good dinner date too.Hehe T.C.

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    Thats Great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rescue101
    I've got one of them fancy car starters too.Blonde and not only can she start the car,she's a pretty good dinner date too.Hehe T.C.
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    i dont know about over pressurization but note that water is one of the few things that expands 10% when frozen

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    Quote Originally Posted by BFDNJFF View Post
    Soap?? I have put a cup full of Class A foam in water cans but never heard of soap.
    Dish soap vastly increases the effectiveness of the can.

    A can holds 320 fluid ounces. 1/2 cup = 4 fl ounces.
    Add 1/2 cup and you've got about a 1% mixture, which is quite strong for Class A fires.

    If you want more add a full cup. It surely won't hurt the extinguisher.

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    The RV antifreeze works fine. We use it in our pump cans, PWE and all discharge caps when heavier freezing conditions exist.

    Actually to comply with clean water standards you should use RV antifreeze and food safe grease for any connections to the domestic water supply.

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    We use soap.

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    You guys realize this is a three + year old thread, don't you?
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