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    FFFred...

    Interesting you commenting on the nosie. My volly FD tried them too and while the flow was amazing the guys all complained about how loud it was.

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    Here's a link to the FDNY Test report on the First Strike Web Site (Vindicator Nozzles). As I understand it the nozzles were then farmed out for a few companies to use in the field? I assume it was in field trials that personnel duiscovered the nozzle affected communications?

    http://www.1ststriketech.com/Testimo...r%2520FDNY.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFDACM
    Here's a link to the FDNY Test report on the First Strike Web Site (Vindicator Nozzles). As I understand it the nozzles were then farmed out for a few companies to use in the field? I assume it was in field trials that personnel duiscovered the nozzle affected communications?

    http://www.1ststriketech.com/Testimo...r%2520FDNY.pdf
    Just a point of order... That report does not appear to be the FDNY report. The way it is worded it was a test using some of our guidelines and was conducted at a volly accademy outside the city by someone other than us. That looks to be a report created for First Strike to sell their product. Our R&D reports have much more info and data that what was presented. There was no mention of field testing or similar trials.

    Not saying we didn't achive some of the same results but I doubt that report came from Chief Turi's Desk.

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    Hey VinnieB or FFFred...

    You guys ever read Emanuel Fried's Book Fireground Tactics?

    Our discussions and the website on FDNY ops made me pull it off the shelf again.

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    FFFred- I too thought that it was a standard across the country that when using a smooth bore that you don't use any tip larger then half the diameter of the hose. I believe that I have read that in the IFSTA Pumping Apparatus
    Driver Operator book. But hell I could be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp
    Hey VinnieB or FFFred...

    You guys ever read Emanuel Fried's Book Fireground Tactics?

    Our discussions and the website on FDNY ops made me pull it off the shelf again.

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    Yes, One of the many books I have. It is a little dated but covers many great basic issues and isn't cluttered with some of the sillyness found in some of todays texts. It has the feel of the old text books without the silly graphics and fluff. One has to be accustomed to this type of text learning...something they don't teach in school much any more. Not many today have the attention span or imagination to understand this text.

    It is simple to the point and based on expereince.

    A must read for anyone seriously into the job.

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    FFFred...

    Heck as old as I am that is how all text books used to be.

    I hadn't looked at that book in years but you and Vinnie renewed ny interest so i pulled it off the shelf last night.

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    Actually...no I don't have that one.....I have a pile of books though.....the Old and new NFPA books, my job's books, Chief Normans book, and a few others.....I'll have to get the one you speak of though.

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    Vinnie,

    It is an old book, published in 1972.

    Some of the stuff, especially about PP and SCBA is out dated, but the tactical stuff seems to still ring true.

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    I follow this thread with interest, you guys are good examples of what the brotherhood is about. Thanks for keeping this a learning expierence. I'll still be playing with my hose when the warm weather comes . If I remember, I'll report back on my findings.

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    MG3610..

    If you want to do a challenging winter drill wait until there are piles of snow and then try and lay out lines for fire attack. Heck you don't even have to charge them.

    It can be a blast to watch guys struggle and cuss about it, but is sure opens some eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VinnieB
    Actually...no I don't have that one.....I have a pile of books though.....the Old and new NFPA books, my job's books, Chief Normans book, and a few others.....I'll have to get the one you speak of though.

    Vinnie, Is this the book titled, "Fire officer's handbook of tactics?"

    Very good book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spearsm
    Vinnie, Is this the book titled, "Fire officer's handbook of tactics?"

    Very good book.

    Yes thats the one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp
    Vinnie,

    It is an old book, published in 1972.

    Some of the stuff, especially about PP and SCBA is out dated, but the tactical stuff seems to still ring true.

    FyredUp
    Ah ok....one of the NFPA books I have is called "Fire Attacks"....its the 1968 edition.....still has some good stuff that can be moderinized.....and compaired to today...its actually a funny read.

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    Vinnie, Is this the book titled, "Fire officer's handbook of tactics?"

    Very good book.
    One of the most informative and well written books I have ever read. Ive read it 3 times since i bought it.

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