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    Does anybody have any idea what the next written test will be like? Everywhere civil service test I've taken has been completely different. Does it have a lot of mechanical aptitude questions? any help is appreciated.


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    2 Questions - 1 Broad and 1 Specific.

    At the end of March I'll be taking the NREMT-B test. I failed it the first time with a 69 and barely any studying. I have a good feel for it now and have been studying so I'm fairly confident I will pass it this time. Is there anyway I can report this on my files to AFD? In the initial application I checked no for the EMTB certification, but I'm not sure how I would report it if I theoretically were to pass it. Also, is having an EMT cert. even advantageous? I know most departments still make you go through their training, but I'm just wondering if this will help me along in the initial stages of the hiring process.
    Now a bit about me - I a 20 y/o student at the University of Houston. I have been a volunteer firefighter for two years and am now an EO. I also worked with FEMA in Mississippi/NOLA in various CR taskforces Seeing as that is not all that impressive, what can I do to sell myself? I know initially it's all about the written score, and I will be studying for that a good deal, but what concerns me more so is that after that stage, they will see a young, relatively inexperienced kid and nothing more. This spring I might have the opportunity to get my HAZ-MAT TECH cert. and maybe even volunteer with Harris County Haz-Mat. I'm hoping that might help. Anyway, any thoughts are appreciated.

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    You can't really report that you "may" pass your NRMET soon... it's heresay. Once you do pass it then you can put that into play... until then, don't even bother.

    Having the EMT cert 'may' help you if you were deadlocked with another guy for the same position that didn't have it. However, Austin FD, whether certified or not, sends all candidates to the fire academy and emt school. The only difference is that prior-certified people won't be required to take the state tests.

    Any certs you have would play into the role the same way... deadlock tie breakers. Especially with this department... because going into the oral board (if you make it past the written) they have no background check to grill you on or impress to impress them. Everyone is on even keel. Once that's complete, EVERYTHING else is pass/fail, so there is no jockying for position past the oral board.

    Hope that helps.

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    Anyone heard any rumors on the final numbers that applied to test??

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    There were over 3200 who applied for the exam.

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    What a test... I never thought the situational questions would end!! How are those scored? I've heard that there is no specific right answer. Rather, the pattern of your answers determines which ones are right/wrong.

    Any feedback??

    Also, already heard rumors of complaints being filed... true or not, who knows.

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    Complaints about what!!! That's ridiculous - just shut the hell up and go through the F****** process just like everybody else. If you fail then you fail better luck next time.

    Yeah there were a ton of situational questions that were hard to tell what the "best" answer was. I didn't think we were ever going to get everyone in there so we could finally take the test.

    Does the oral boards come next or the CPAT?

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    The Austin web site lists the oral board then the CPAT.

    http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/fire/downloads/hirproc06.pdf

    Even though there will be a written exam and CPAT your ranking on the Austin exam will be determined by how well you do on the oral exam. This means 100% of your score to be hired will be in your Oral Board Score! In the Austin test if you pass the written you will be invited to an oral board. You don't want to be caught flatfooted.

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    Next step are the oral boards. As for who gets an invite, the fire chief will select a "batch" of applicants to move on in the process. It could be 200, could be 500. Just depends if they use a certain score, say 90% and above or if they just see the demographics. If you are invited to an oral, your written score will mean nothing. You will start over from scratch and your oral score will be it. CPAT is strictly pass/fail.
    As for numbers, 2800 people were able to take the test and I don't know how many showed up.....

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    Life would be marvelous if there were no complaints, but as it is, there were some. Sucks, but that's life.

    Looking forward to finding out the scores and moving on to the oral board... should be a fun ride!

    Anyone from DM Fire School... I've tried contacting you several times about a question I had with your packet and have heard nothing back... Please contact me regarding the questions I sent you (you should know who I am), so I can refrain from posting my question directly on here. Thanks.

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    "ere is the text of a memo sent to the Chief and AFD personnel on March 23.

    To: Juan J. Adame, Fire Chief
    All Fire Department Personnel

    From: Cathy Rodgers, Civil Service Director

    Date: March 23, 2006

    RE: Written Exam Scheduled for March 25, 2006


    As you know, there was a problem with the delivery of the test booklets for the written exam scheduled to be administered to your applicants on Saturday, March 25. One of the boxes that contained the booklets (which consisted of the test questions and answer choices only, not the answers themselves) had come apart in transit and approximately 182 test booklets were missing from that box.

    To ensure that all applicants are on equal footing for the test, my office-along with City Legal-decided that the best course of action was to return the remaining test booklets we received from CWH Management Solutions, Inc., and administer a different test. This test also is provided by CWH, is validated for Austin, and meets all contract requirements; the full text of the validation report will be sent to us next week and I will provide you with a copy of it as soon as I receive it.

    There is no cause for alarm and the test will proceed as scheduled. The test and its administration will be handled by my office in accordance with the contract and Civil Service law.

    Please request your personnel to direct any questions they may have through their chain of command so that they can be relayed to me in an efficient manner for response."

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    Pretty wild stuff... let's hope AFD can have a successful run this year... for our sakes! Good luck to all who tested!

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    Rumor has it the results of the written test will be mailed out April 4, 2006.

    Since 100% of your score to be hired will be in your Oral Board Score you don't want to be caught flatfooted. This is why:

    As you have said before oral board is the most important step in the process and the step that is least prepared for. Well I can support your statement. As I watched the recording of my score (reading upside down) I noticed 60's and 70's on the scores of those that interviewed before me. I would assume there were about 25 names on the sheet prior to mine. I scored high enough to get a background packet as I left. Thanks again for your help Rich


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    Results will NOT be mailed out... they will all be posted on www.afdrecruiting.com ... all of those who made the cut for the oral board will be contacted for oral board assignments.

    The oral board is 100%, like Capt. Bob said, so if you make the cut it's a new season!!

    Good luck to all of you.

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    FYI Everybody - the results for the written exam were posted today. The link is http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/fire/down...Exam032506.pdf .

    Also, I already emailed this question to AFD Recruiting but am still waiting for an answer. I applied for the bilingual credit which would give me 1 point on the written exam which very well could be the difference between advancing or not, and I'm just wondering when, where, etc. the test will be administered, and what it will entail. Thanks very much and good luck to everyone.

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    No points will be added to the written test... that's for Bi-Lingual and military points. They will only be credit if you advance to the oral board and will be credited to the oral board score only!

    The scores aren't in ranked order, so I had to sit and look at all the scores to determine position on the "list". It looks like the top score was a 97!! Crazy. The average score appeared to be low to mid 80's.

    Good luck to all!! Hope to see you at the orals.

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    Ok. That makes sense. Thanks for the clarification. Again, good luck to everyone.

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    Turned out the be a really hard test, if you judge by the scores. There just over 300 scores 90 or better... Last word was 250 will proceed to the oral board, but that could change. I'm in the 60's. Let's hear some other scores.

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    I'm pretty happy with my score - mid nineties. I wish it told you what rank you were - that must have taken forever to count them all, what was there like 3000 scores. So I guess from HonorTheFallen's post, maybe I'm sitting good enough to move on.

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    Maynerd: You're moving on... no doubt about it. Anything above a 93 is a guaranteed at this point. A buddy of mine did a spreadsheet (after I had counted all scores above mine to find my rank!!!!) and found that the top 200 will be in the 92's and better. They scored down to the one-hundreth of a point, so position is almost non-negotiable on a tie-breaker scheme. Wish you all well!

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