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    Default 3 of the same grants to 1 dept

    If you look at the firehouse grant section and go under Indiana, how did Washington Township Vol fire dept recieve 3 grants in 3 different rounds 9-2-1 for the same thing Ops and safety? Is this a typo or are they really lucky?


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    It's just a big coincidence that 3 departments have the same name. Each of these departments service a different city/town. On an Indiana map these 3 towns appear to be remote from each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onebugle
    It's just a big coincidence that 3 departments have the same name. Each of these departments service a different city/town. On an Indiana map these 3 towns appear to be remote from each other.
    Yep. Of the 92 counties in Indiana, at least 4 have a "Pleasant Township" which is the name of ours. The first time we requested a Congressional letter of support the locality was not specified in our Congressman's letter, so we had to ask his grants coordinator to send a second letter. I shudder to think of how many Lincoln and Washington Townships there may be.

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    Think that is bad try "Hometown VFD". I have 5 of them just in my personal contacts.
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    I talked to AFG last year about a topic like this. We have a fire Dept, ambulance, and rescue unit all in the same building and staffed by the same people for the most part. I was told that as long as each has a seperate budget and a seperate Chief that they would all be able to apply for grants seperatly. None of them got a dime but for us in the rural areas with almost no budget it is a good way to get the equipment we need.

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    It appears you got bad info from the AFG. Who answered the question? The reason being their info cotradicts the following in the PG on page 3.

    For the purposes of this program, we consider that two or more separate fire departments or nonaffiliated EMS organizations that share facilities are tantamount to being one organization.This determination is designed to assist the grants program office in its fiscal oversight of the program by avoiding or eliminating duplication of benefits. For example, it would not be cost beneficial to purchase two firefighting vehicles for two fire departments that share a facility to serve the same community when so many other communities need new apparatus. We believe that two or more organizations that share facilities should be able to satisfy all of their operational needs with one application. If two or more organizations that share facilities submit more than one application, we will deem all of the applications ineligible.

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    The differance is that each of our service provide a seperate function. Fire only does fire, Rescue only does rescue, and EMS only does EMS. Nothing overlaps. Its not like fire and rescue would both want a pumper. Maybe I wasnt clear enough earlier.

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    Unhappy Only 1 Application

    Try this. We are a county-wide fire department with 10 substations. Only 1 out of the 10 stations has a class A pumper (received from 2003 AFG). We have been told, and have interpreted from the Program Guidance, that we can not apply for a vehicle, under AFG, for any of the other 9 stations that cover our 305 square mile juridiction . In these other 9 stations, we have 1975 model 2-ton trucks with homemade tanks and rear engine-driven pumps....basically brush trucks. Our neighboring counties are set up with independent fire departments, within their counties, and they can apply for a vehicle for each of their stations . We like the county-wide system as far as operational ease, but it sure isn't too advantageous for AFG funding! We have considered disbanding and making 10 fire departments out of 1 .

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