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    Holy *****.

    Where's HWoods.... Chief, any insight on this one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdoddsjffhnfc
    i thought we were all on the same team here, with the same goal/purpose in mind. I could never imagine someone from one of my mutual aid companies turning off my SCBA or tampering with my gear. That is just sad, hope what should happen happens in this matter.

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    One of my buddies is a live in down in PG County. An un-named station turned off his bottle, broke the strap to his helmet, and stole the line just so they could kick him off the line. This isn't anything new, and was part of the reason why we didn't go to certain places..

    Have heard multiple instances of those same events too.
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    damn, that is some messed up stuff. I've never heard of that level of crap in my area; i'm not sayin that smaller stuff doesn't happen, but that **** goin on in PG county is childish BS. I'm sorry, but i guess they forgot about the "team work" aspect of the service, whether it be workin wit the guys from your station or from other stations.

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    Sounds like you all have a bunch of stupid, childish punks down there. My suggestion is to grow the F*&@ up and show some professionalism. If you idiots keep going the way you are someone is going to loose a life. Thanks for helping add to the possibly of an LODD. All I can say is good thing Im not running your fire ground!

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    I only hope that these allegations are being blown out of proportion. We all know how "acurate" the news is with their information. Sounds like a lot of bad blood there... I only hope that know would do anything like that.
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    I'm too lazy to do the search, but isn't this like the millionth time there has been a thread about the nonsense that goes on in PG County? If this goes true to form, this thread will degenerate into names, threats of violence and a shut down by the WT in about two days.

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    I'm too lazy to do the search, but isn't this like the millionth time there has been a thread about the nonsense that goes on in PG County? If this goes true to form, this thread will degenerate into names, threats of violence and a shut down by the WT in about two days.
    Exactly why I have no comment, other than that my Company was not there, nor was I. And, It's a damn shame that the alleged misdeeds of a very few tarnish the good work of the majority.
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    Hopefully, the rest of the country will not look at this and think this is how volunteerism is around the US. I volunteered for almost 2 years before I was hired on a paid deptarment and I wouldn't trade that time for the world. However, it takes an instance such as this for all volunteers to be lumped into the category of unprofessional and "second rate". I'm sure the majority of PG depts. are highly professional and provide excellent service to thier communities. However, "black eyes" such as this could set back years of progress and trust amoung those they serve.

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    If things were that bad with our mutual aid companies, we'd simply quit going to fires with them...

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    I see that the Kentland vollies and those from Bladensburg Fire Company put a whole new meaning to the term "Professional Volunteer"....
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    Part of the problem is that there are vollies in the suburbs around DC who worship the guys who run at Kentland. "Oh Kentland did this..." Worry about your own guys and your own dept before you start wishing you were with another company.

    And the fact that a firefighter caused another firefighter INTENTIONAL harm while on the fireground is reprehensible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods
    It's a damn shame that the alleged misdeeds of a very few tarnish the good work of the majority.

    Well said hwoods I will not form any opinions of any Department or Person until all the facts are reviewed and the investigation is complete. I too know several good P.G. FF's and reports such as this will not stop this department from continuing to do the good job they do everyday.
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    Am I the only one who can imagine the beating and bloodshed that would befall the individual who touched another fire fighters air pack? Of course, this punishment would befall this individual out of the view of the general public. And, at least in my FD, the guy who had his SCBA tampered with would not have to lift a finger.

    Also, aren't there like a hundred children from Kentland on these forums? It would be interesting to hear the justification for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI
    Am I the only one who can imagine the beating and bloodshed that would befall the individual who touched another fire fighters air pack? Of course, this punishment would befall this individual out of the view of the general public. And, at least in my FD, the guy who had his SCBA tampered with would not have to lift a finger.
    Lord yes. Attempted manslaughter charges do not have nearly the same teaching impact. Unbelievable. Shutting off a man's SCBA??? WTF?

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    Before my time, Malahat had an incident involving a person turning air off on a BA. The good thing is, this was done during a relay drill, and not on real operations. To all accounts the individual who's air was turned of (he was a submariner too) took at least 2 guys to pull him off the perpetrator. No blood was shed per se.

    As to George's challenge, I do not belive there could be any justification for turning another persons air off during live ops. What? "Ooopssss sorry about that."???
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    I've heard of fighting off the fireground, this is just bizarre. I have had discussions with PGC people and do recall them not saying good things about other department(s), but don't recall the exact conversation. Anyways its disgusting, shameful, and embarassing. Sounds like some "team building" training might be in order, that or terminations.

    Reminds me though of a story my dad told me a few times. Back in the 50's his department was fighting a hardware store fire and they needed to cut through a wood floor of the building. The OIC requested an ax and it never came. He checked, and two of the FF's were rolling around on the ground fighting over who was going to carry the ax in. Probably good they didn't have SCBA's back then!

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    After watching the video link...

    If the allegations are true, then those so called "brothers" who turned off the air supplies of firefighters in the building deserve to be charged with attempted murder. Those that threw the elbows should be charged with assault and battery.
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    Heard some pretty outrageous PG stories, don't know anyone personally down there so don't know how true they are. But, IF this is true......ummm, WTF barely covers it. If you ever turned my air off in a working fire, there most definitely would be blood shed. Back in the days of Nelson and the wooden navies it was called the 'justice of the lower deck'. Lord help you if you stole or committed some other crime against your shipmates. Getting flogged was definitely preferred to what your shipmates would do to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MalahatTwo7
    Before my time, Malahat had an incident involving a person turning air off on a BA. The good thing is, this was done during a relay drill, and not on real operations. To all accounts the individual who's air was turned of (he was a submariner too) took at least 2 guys to pull him off the perpetrator. No blood was shed per se.

    As to George's challenge, I do not belive there could be any justification for turning another persons air off during live ops. What? "Ooopssss sorry about that."???
    I did not imply that shutting off anyone's air is justified ever. My point was that the individual who originally had his air shut off would not have had to lift a finger in the the subsequent beatings. It would be taken care of for him.

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    SPFD how did Bladensburg make a bad name for the vollies if you watched the vid sounds to me like Kentland got that wrapped up ALL by them selves, from the vid they said 30,28 and 9 were the victims of this cowerdly act the Kentland boys brought on them selves.

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