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    Default Bullard helmets and MSA masks

    My volunteer department has Bullard firedome helmets and MSA SCBAs and I have heard a few complaints in my department about helmets making peoples heads sore and giving them hedaches while weraing them with an SCBA mask. So I was just wandering if anyone here knows if Bullard firedome helmets are made to acomidate MSA type SCBA masks or if there is any other reason this is occuring (user error maybe?).

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    The problem is... it's a Bullard lid.

    I have one that was FD issue..damn uncomfortable..leather is better!
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    I agree with the Wise Captain.
    Bullard is not a choice product in my opinion.
    While LEATHER is BETTER, a good Cairns head piece is comfortable. I've worn mine many a hour without any complications.

    Quite possible that they have the rachet too tight on the lid with the mask in place. Other than that, are thier heads miss-shaped?

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    I've got a Bullard PX, about five years old. The rest of the dept. is issued Cairns, but I received the Bullard from a close family member for Christmas, and I couldn't NOT wear it. And yeah, it hurts after about one hour. On a multi alarm fire my head will be aching something terrible.

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    I used to wear the same lid with a scott mask. I was uncomfortable and never sat on my head correctly. I now wear a benny II and have had no issues.

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    The Bullard lids suck, I used to have one and had all the same issues others have said here. I have a conway now, and after 4 years it's getting to be the same. Still waiting for the leather front for my N6A.
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    I personally think my bullard is alright, with no mask it is quite comfortable, with a mask it can be iritating after while if it is racheted too tight or placed improperly.

    But I can't stand a leather helmet, it's like wearing a cinder block atop your head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul343
    I personally think my bullard is alright, with no mask it is quite comfortable, with a mask it can be iritating after while if it is racheted too tight or placed improperly.

    But I can't stand a leather helmet, it's like wearing a cinder block atop your head.
    Wear the salad bowl style Phenix, kinda mixes both worlds......(did I just open a can of worms or what )
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    I have never cared for Bullard lids after seeing one "bubble up" at a structural training burn. I was in the same room with the person and my 1010 didnt do it. So NO Bullard for me EVER, as for the mask thing ............never heard of that.
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