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    Default Hale pump, P50-4.

    What's a good use for a Hale pump, P50-4?
    It's curently front bumper mounted on an old engine.
    The data tag lists the following psi & GPM's:
    150psi 500gpm
    200psi 350gpm
    250psi 250gpm

    It has three forward facing outlets, one pressure gauge.
    With multiple outlets open and one pressure gauge, is it somewhat of a guess what pressure each valve/hose is getting?


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    Well i need more information, But if you can move it to a tanker would be very helpfully for refilling and also for attack in a emergency, of put it on a brush truck would go good to.

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    Older truck with low miles, ggod running engine, 25,500 GVWR.
    Two side mounted booster reels.
    Metal tank, which may be below 750 gals, probally 500. Looking into top fill opening shows signs of Mr. Rust. Measuring tank and records research on the things to do list.
    One idea is to put it on a diet. Remove the unused booster reels and hoses, install larger poly tank. Guesstimating that metal tank and reel assy's removed would allow more water carrying capacity.
    As I was told and understand, this isn't technically considered an Engine according to curent NFPA standards.
    Can't haul much water.
    Not an Engine.
    Mod or get rid of?

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    You didn't say what type of tank/body configuration you had so if the tank is "hidden" within the body / compartment structure consider the following . . .

    A lot of older trucks used the tank walls as integral body structure as well. Can't simply jerk the tank out w/o cutting up the body & adding supports back to it. Which in turn will further limit the size of the poly tank you can install.
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    The tank walls are seperate from the body panels.
    Storage compartment space is very limited. Older Sutphen rear body.

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    Thumbs up Good Pump!!

    Ahh...an old P50...damn good model. Whatever configuration you choose for it just take a good look at your power source to it. Being an old front mount I figure it is PTO driven (?!?! just a guess). Depending on where you put it on the "new" truck try to avoid long shaFts, steep angles on the shaft, and "hanging low" mounting. With good care and maintenance it will make a great transfer pump for a tanker or an attack pump for a QRV or brush unit. Nice to see departments recycling what they have!!
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    O.K. - well to throw back to AFG terminology - do a needs assessment.
    Does your department have a need (or at least a justifiable "want" to spend the money) to do any of the following:

    Convert the existing truck to a water source unit.

    Take the pump off and use it and the reels to build a skid unit for brush / quick attack (dump the rubber line on the reels and load them with forestry hose) Sell the existing chassis to help fund this project

    Mount the pump on a trailer & couple it to an old motor and make it a supply pump for training so you don't have a truck committed / out of service (also depends on your water supply available)

    The real limits are your imagination & budget.
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