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    Default These Russians are CRAZY

    BEIJING (AFP) - A team of Russian pilots will reportedly fly fighter jets through a narrow cave in central China in a tourist stunt that will cost people up to 840 dollars to watch.

    The Russian air force jets, including advanced Sukhoi Su-30s and Su-27s, will fly through the famed Tianmen Cave in central Hunan province on March 17-18, the Hunan Daily said.

    The cave, which resembles a rock archway, is only 57 meters (188 feet) wide at its widest point and 28 meters wide at its narrowest, it said.

    The cave is about 280 meters long and 130 meters high, and according to the China Daily, "is the highest water-eroded cave in the world".

    Local officials are hoping to reap huge profits from the March event with 20,000 tickets on sale for up to 6,800 yuan (840 dollars) each, the China Daily said.

    Publicity and ticket fees from a similar event in 1999 helped generate 2.5 billion yuan (308 million dollars) in tourism revenues over the next three years, the press reports said.

    Organizers have already paid 52 million yuan to put on the upcoming event, including 2.7 million yuan for insurance, the Hunan Daily said.

    The event is part of the "Year in Russia" celebrations in China.
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    "Insurance"? Why do they need that?

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    I don't know which is crazier -- what they're doing or what they're doing it with.

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    The Su-30 and Su-27 are best suited for this stunt........just think if it was a MiG-25 or MiG-27..................now that would be a real trick........

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    $840! Just to watch!

    I'll tell you who the crazy ones are!




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    Quote Originally Posted by VinnieB
    The Su-30 and Su-27 are best suited for this stunt........just think if it was a MiG-25 or MiG-27..................now that would be a real trick........
    I just meant Russian equipment in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonSmithnotTMD
    I just meant Russian equipment in general.
    No kidding, not quite what it once was. I think the Russian navy is down to a couple subs, a destroyer or two and a handfull of lifeboats.

    I read somewhere that one of their newer carriers was sold to private interests and is going to be turned into a floating hotel/casino.
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    BEIJING (AFP) - A team of Russian pilots will reportedly fly fighter jets through a narrow cave in central China in a tourist stunt that will cost people up to 840 dollars to watch.

    The Russian air force jets, including advanced Sukhoi Su-30s and Su-27s, will fly through the famed Tianmen Cave in central Hunan province on March 17-18, the Hunan Daily said.

    The cave, which resembles a rock archway, is only 57 meters (188 feet) wide at its widest point and 28 meters wide at its narrowest, it said.

    The cave is about 280 meters long and 130 meters high, and according to the China Daily, "is the highest water-eroded cave in the world".

    Local officials are hoping to reap huge profits from the March event with 20,000 tickets on sale for up to 6,800 yuan (840 dollars) each, the China Daily said.

    Publicity and ticket fees from a similar event in 1999 helped generate 2.5 billion yuan (308 million dollars) in tourism revenues over the next three years, the press reports said.

    Organizers have already paid 52 million yuan to put on the upcoming event, including 2.7 million yuan for insurance, the Hunan Daily said.

    The event is part of the "Year in Russia" celebrations in China.
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    Out of about sixty kabillion people, don't you suppose they could have found a couple of CHINESE pilots to do this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonSmithnotTMD
    I just meant Russian equipment in general.
    Remember Yuri Gagarin? He was using Russian gear--if he did not do wot he done--do you honestly think that America would have put a man on the Moon? Possibly-yes --but not as bloody quickly!

    If as I suspect you think their gear was inferior--Gagarin must have more balls than any later Space Commando
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    Oh no... I have been around for more than five minutes and therefore i know how well Russian pilots and air shows go together. Much like a Zippo and a very very short fused stick of dynamite.
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    And if you think the Russians are so stupid; why did the USA spend thousands of dollars developing a pen that would work in space when the Russians just used a pencil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2andfrom
    Remember Yuri Gagarin? He was using Russian gear--if he did not do wot he done--do you honestly think that America would have put a man on the Moon? Possibly-yes --but not as bloody quickly!

    If as I suspect you think their gear was inferior--Gagarin must have more balls than any later Space Commando
    No doubt. But I think the posters (at least me) are reffering to the current sad state of affairs in what used to be the Soviet Union, as it pertains to the armed forces.
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    I can't help but think of the line from Hunt for Red October, when she is transitting Red Route 1 using the catepillar drive: "Kiptan, if we are out of position by so much as a boat length...."
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    Quote Originally Posted by PattyV

    And if you think the Russians are so stupid; why did the USA spend thousands of dollars developing a pen that would work in space when the Russians just used a pencil.
    Actually I think that space pen project was close to 12 million bucks, I always laughed about that.

    I always remember that line from the movie Armageddon where the Russian Cosmonaut said "Russian space ship, American space ship, all made in Taiwan!"

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    Question The Russians have a military?

    Go to the Smithsmonian Air and Space in DC, it looks like the Russians had a yard sale. Old rockets, planes, etc.

    Ft. Knox has an armor display, with plenty of German and Russian equipment to go around.

    Wright Patterson AFB has planes and equipment from the Russians spanning back to WWII that I know of and heard roumor of some stuff from WWI.

    The Cold War broke what they had/have, their military consists of a shift of guys waiting to push a flashing red button nowadays, the sold everything else. At least thats what it looks like.

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    Heres part of an article on the current state of the Russian navy, from a world navy site.

    State of the Russian Fleet: Due to continued political, economic and societal chaos in Russia, the Fleet is in a badly deteriorated state. Even those ships that remain in commission and theoretically operational are generally unable to deploy, due to lack of trained crews and lack of funds to buy fuel and stores. In general maintenance is minimal or nonexistent, and there are no funds to conduct much-needed overhauls, even for major fleet units. Many ships have been abandoned when repairs or refits came due.

    More info here: http://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/

    Go to page and click on "Russia".
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    Talking russian jets

    Will Clint Eastwood be coming out of retirement to fly the Mig 31 from Foxfire for this one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lvwrench
    Will Clint Eastwood be coming out of retirement to fly the Mig 31 from Foxfire for this one?
    I think you mean "Firefox"?
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    Thanks for the correction. At my age I tend to get CRS and mix up my movie titles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkfd7505
    Actually I think that space pen project was close to 12 million bucks, I always laughed about that.

    I always remember that line from the movie Armageddon where the Russian Cosmonaut said "Russian space ship, American space ship, all made in Taiwan!"
    point of order! The quote is actually:
    Lev Andropov: Excuse me, but I think I know how to fix this.
    Watts: Move it! You don't know the components!
    Lev Andropov: [annoyed] Components. American components, Russian Components, ALL MADE IN TAIWAN!
    and if I remember correctly, this is when he starts beating the thing with a wrench, which causes it to work!!!

    sorry, just one of my favorite movie lines evey, back to the normal discussion
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    Dr P, you are in fact correct in the wrench beating bits. The truly sad part about that statement is the truth behind. Nearly everything electronic is made in Taiwan.

    Gotta love government contracts!
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