Fire Officers Unions

[RFDACM]

Are there any other departments out there (besides UFOA) that have chief officers in the union or that have their own union? We have a firefightres union that includes the lieutenants but not the assistant chiefs who serve as shift commanders. These A/C's do not have hiring/firing powers and are limited in disciplinary actions to immediate actions (verbal and written reprimands and paid suspension for same day when a significant issue arises). If some of you have chief officers within the same Union are there issues? Given the current talks of cutting insurances and forgoing raises our A/C's need to look at being represented. yes, I've requested info from the IAFF, but would like to hear from those of you actually dealing with it.

[Kobersteen]

Both the IAFF Locals I have been involved with (341 & 2068) include ALL ranks (up to and including the fire chief) in one local.

[MikeWard]

Local 964
Baltimore City Fire Officers
http://www.baltimorefireofficers.com/fireofficers/

[SON044]

Oakland CA of Local 55 includes B/Cs. We used to represent Assistant Chiefs also but an arbitrator took them out of the Bargaining unit.

[LFD2203]

Lex. KY now permits the District Officers to be members of Local 526, but may not serve on E board.

[gunnyv]

IAFF local represents all members Batt Chief and below. Chief and 2 Deputies have their own union.

[len1582]

Jersey City, N.J.

Local 1066 is all FF's...

Local 1064 is Capts.---Battalion Chiefs---Deputy Chiefs

Chief of Department is management and not in the union.

[capt1343]

Our chief is the only one that is not in the union.

[aland438]

Same for us, our BC's are in our union, we have discussed the possibility of the BC's forming thier own union. Our city has a supervisors union of which all department heads belong. The city is not in favor of moving them into that union because they would need a special contract because of the different schedules they work compared to the other supervisors in the city that typically work a fourty hour week. They see it as one more contract to have to negotiate.

[DeputyChiefGonzo]

Having the company officers in a different local... sometimes I find it intriguing.. other times, I see it as a "divide and conquer" manuever.

My local covers the ranks from Firefighter to Deputy Chief.

In my local, there have been a few "hotheads", usually those with a beef against their company officers who talk about "tossing us out of the Local..."

Every once in a while, I feel that we should have our own local, as it would make things easier in regards to discipilnary actions, etc.