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    Quote Originally Posted by Midland35
    Where is Arkansas?
    Are you a volunteer department?
    Call volume plays a big part in the $$ requested.
    Not knocking volunteer departments, I am a volunteer!
    First of all If you dont know where Arkansas is I dont have enough time to offer any help to you. But if your response was supposed to be as rude as it was received I am not here for that kind of smart ***** remarks. I will tell you this, We only run a couple of hundred runs a year. But we are regarded as a very well trained department. We respond on a regular basis to assist large "paid" departments. We have a ISO rating of a 4 and only use hauled water. All Firefighters Firefighter 1 &2 certified and are EMT's or Paramedic's and all are certified rescue divers. So your attitude was not well received and I am sure others on this forum do not want to read your crap either.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RES81CUE
    First of all If you dont know where Arkansas is I dont have enough time to offer any help to you. But if your response was supposed to be as rude as it was received I am not here for that kind of smart ***** remarks. I will tell you this, We only run a couple of hundred runs a year. But we are regarded as a very well trained department. We respond on a regular basis to assist large "paid" departments. We have a ISO rating of a 4 and only use hauled water. All Firefighters Firefighter 1 &2 certified and are EMT's or Paramedic's and all are certified rescue divers. So your attitude was not well received and I am sure others on this forum do not want to read your crap either.
    Well said guy!
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    Kurt-

    Not touchy at all....... I'm just 99% Firefighter, .75% Grant Consultant, .25% Salesman (salesman only because we have bills to pay).

    Our company was formed because of our passion and love for the fire service and I try to provide only factual (to the best of my knowledge) information that can help out my fellow brothers and sisters in the Fire and EMS service.

    I never try to push products or manufacturers unless someone asks a product specific question that I may have an answer to.

    Then again....maybe I was a little touchy when you referred to me as a saleman and also misquoted/or misread my post regarding the DHS figures from last year. We helped several Illinois departments procure funds last year and if they asked for a complete ensemble, then they were limited to $2,000. If they only asked for bunker pants, then usually (not always) they were limited to $1200/set. Also, I stated that the DRD is a proposed update, no where did I state that this was a current NFPA mandate.

    As a firefighter, I would recommend that departments do get the most bang for their buck by purchasing high quality gear that meets their needs. I have been in the fire service for 10 years and a member of three different fire departments. During this time, I have been fortunate (or maybe unfortunate) to have worn gear from several manufacturers and also been able to see that there are significant differences in quality and service varying from one manufacturer to the next. What good is PBI gear if it doesn't fit correctly, is poorly constructed, and has poor durability? I would say a good waste of our hard earned tax dollars!

    Ok, enough already.....I am off my soapbox for now.

    Good luck to all with this year's AFG Program!

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    I am on a volunteer department in Arkansas. I only asked the question because I know of a dealer that not only sells PPE he wears it, too.
    A little different if he knows and uses what he sells.
    No intentions of stepping on toes!

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    Looks like someone meant to type 'Where IN Arkansas', not 'Where IS Arkansas'

    And look at all of the fun postings came out of that little misunderstanding. Everyone now realize why we all say to check for the minor details in your grant applications? Massive misconceptions over one little letter happen all of the time, especially in the pressure cooker called Peer Review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BC79er
    Looks like someone meant to type 'Where IN Arkansas', not 'Where IS Arkansas'

    And look at all of the fun postings came out of that little misunderstanding. Everyone now realize why we all say to check for the minor details in your grant applications? Massive misconceptions over one little letter happen all of the time, especially in the pressure cooker called Peer Review.
    Brian righto! rfd99 it was "touche', not touchy, as in "you got me guy!" Oh my, too, too many hours in front of this computer. iIneed sleep! Goo dnight all!
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    Thanks for the clarification and have a good evening!

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    Have you looked at Chieftain... We have went away for the others due to price, quality and delivery times. We are very happy with the 3200X Series...

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    Make sure if you are writing for PPE you ask for the same amount of gear as you have members. Never try to ask for more. This will score you really low, or might just completely throw you out.

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    Default A few thoughts on gear

    Having recv'd an award for gear; we looked at it all, securitex, firedex, globe, morning pride, etc.

    The biggest thing to keep in mind is this: What is the leading cause of firefighter deaths besides auto accidents? HEART ATTACKS!! Friend of mine had heart attack on duty and really got into studying all of this stuff and found that majority(cant remember exact percentage) of FF's who died of heart attack on duty; had already suffered one prior.
    On duty includes at home after shift and/or after call for POC's.

    I mention this becuase our focus was not so much as TPL but the THL. Let's face it; PBI is PBI becuase there are only so many mills that produce the fabric.

    no matter what you choose spend a fair amount of time talking with the rep to develop the best mix of both.

    We settled on Globe Extreme-30 sets through grant and just purchased another 10 sets for new recruits.
    The input from our personnel has been positive and in fact no one has complained about it at all.

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