Why register? ...To Enhance Your Experience
+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 12 of 12
  1. #1
    MembersZone Subscriber SteveDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    London, England
    Posts
    1,254

    Default Bad year for the UK?

    You may or may not know that the Southern UK is suffering from a serious drought. we do get rain, but nothing like the amount we should, in fact the past few summers and winters have been very dry.

    Although it has been very cold this winter it's also been very dry, already many of the water Companied in the South, including London are putting in hosepipe bans.

    Yesterday saw a large Heathland Fire In Dorset...Crews in the SW have been fighting a number these fires since last summer as it has remained dry throughout and the normal damp autumn and winter did not materialise.

    Now we are all predicting we are going to have a fantastic with these fires this year...especially if the summer is as hot as 2003 and 2005... I think those who hold the purse strings wil have blinkers on as usual and we will be playing I told you so with very little proper 'wildfire' equipment as our colleagues in the US and Europe have.

    Our Summers have been getting progressively hotter since the early 90's...but our response to these incidents hasn't...

    BBC Link
    Attached Images Attached Images  
    Steve Dude
    IACOJ member
    www.fireservice.co.uk

    London Fire Brigade...."Can Do"


    'Irony'... It's a British thing.


  2. #2
    Forum Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    MFD
    Posts
    164

    Default

    SteveDude,
    All I can say is "good luck". Where I am in north Florida, we have been fortunate for the past couple of years. We have not had the widespread fires that have become common since I started. The larger wildland fires that we have had lately have been knocked using local departments and assets already in place from Florida DOF and US DOF. That has made for a nice change of pace from the regional strike team requirements of years past. As a whole, though, this has helped to prepared us for the worst and has almost forced local departments to train and equip their departments to meet this need.

    If your local bean-counters can't or won't fund the proper training and equipment then please just try to keep yourselves safe until they decide to "remove their hat rack from their defacation portal" (in other words: pull their head out of their *****).

    Again, good luck and stay safe.
    Stupid People.......Providing Job Security to Public Safety Professionals for ........forever

  3. #3
    MembersZone Subscriber EFD840's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2000
    Location
    Eclectic (no, NOT electric), Alabama
    Posts
    1,510

    Default

    Steve, does the UK fire service have anything similar to our wildland engines or even the basic VFD brush truck?

  4. #4
    MembersZone Subscriber SteveDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    London, England
    Posts
    1,254

    Default

    EFD,
    Yes, a lot of the County brigades have various Wildland trucks such as Pizguars, Unimogs, Land Rovers and other 4x4's

    Link to Wildland Fire truck photos
    Steve Dude
    IACOJ member
    www.fireservice.co.uk

    London Fire Brigade...."Can Do"


    'Irony'... It's a British thing.

  5. #5
    Forum Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    2

    Default

    Hello SteveDude,
    You had mentioned you are in the LFB. How long have you been on the Job there? Where are you located? I'm on the Job in the USA and work for one of LFB retired Chiefs. I think he work out of Wadworth (spell?) London. What I heard it was a pretty busy place where he came from. Lots of fire activity.

    Thanks Brother and stay safe!

  6. #6
    MembersZone Subscriber SteveDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    London, England
    Posts
    1,254

    Default

    Hello Bruv,
    I have been on the job since 87 and hold the rank of Asst Divisional officer (Batt Chief) I am based in East London a long way across a very big City from Wandsworth. I know of the Guy you are talking about....I never knew him when he was in LFB, but have heard plenty about him since.

    Wandsworth like most of inner London was Busy back in the 60's to 80's...but now it has become quite gentrified. I don't know what you class as Busy but by LFB standards Wandsworth isn't what we would call busy at all...just and average Station in an area that is mainly upmarket with a few Council Housing Estates (projects) and Industrial area providing a bit of work to keep the Station ticking over.

    I believe your man didn't retire...he wasn't old enough nor had he served long enough. He just resigned from LFB when he got the new job.

    I get asked about him fairly frequently and have to say here that it would not be fair to comment on someone I don't know. What I do hear isn't good... and if its true I can assure you that that is not a common representation of a typical LFB Officer.
    Steve Dude
    IACOJ member
    www.fireservice.co.uk

    London Fire Brigade...."Can Do"


    'Irony'... It's a British thing.

  7. #7
    Forum Member PattyV's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    1,272

    Default

    A bad year for the UK? How about a bad year for everyone in the Commonwealth apart from Australia?

    MEDAL TALLY
    Country G S B Total
    AUS 50 45 39 |134
    ENG 20 24 19 |63
    IND 14 8 4 |26
    CAN 10 20 16 |46
    SCO 8 6 7 |21
    RSA 8 4 9 |21
    JAM 4 2 1 |7
    MAS 3 3 4 |10
    NZL 2 4 10 |16
    NGR 2 3 2 |7
    WAL 2 0 6 |8
    SIN 1 2 3 |6
    KEN 1 2 1 |4
    CYP 1 1 1 |3
    PNG 1 1 0 |2
    IOM 1 0 1 |2
    PAK 1 0 1 |2
    GHA 1 0 0 |1
    SRI 1 0 0 |1
    TAN 1 0 0 |1
    CMR 0 1 2 |3
    BAH 0 1 0 |1
    BAN 0 1 0 |1
    MLT 0 1 0 |1
    NRU 0 1 0 |1
    NIR 0 1 0 |1
    TRI 0 0 2 |2
    FIJ 0 0 1 |1
    SEY 0 0 1 |1

    I dont think its just a homeground advantage either.
    "There are only two things that i know are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. And im not so sure about the former."

    For all the life of me, i cant see a firefighter going to hell. At least not for very long. We would end up putting out all the fires and annoying the devil too much.

  8. #8
    MembersZone Subscriber SteveDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    London, England
    Posts
    1,254

    Default

    I will say nothing about Rugby & Cricket then Bruv.....

    (INCOMING!!!!)

    Anyway, can we get back to Wildland Firefighting now?
    Steve Dude
    IACOJ member
    www.fireservice.co.uk

    London Fire Brigade...."Can Do"


    'Irony'... It's a British thing.

  9. #9
    Forum Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    2

    Exclamation

    Hello SteveDude, or I should say Chief,
    Thank you for the reply. I kind of figured the man we are talking about is not what you guys are about. So where he is now is much busier. 6,400 runs per year. EMS 11,800. Below is a link to a web page. I'm sure you will find it a interesting read. Poplar web page is pretty cool. Nice photos. Looks like you guys do some work!

    Thank you again and stay safe!

    http://www.nbfire.us/

  10. #10
    MembersZone Subscriber MalahatTwo7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Loco madidus effercio in rutilus effercio.
    Posts
    12,828

    Default

    Seems to be a bit of a trend all round. Harve has been busier than a One Armed Paper Hanger, dealing with brush fires.

    I'm just a ways across the river from him, and the whole region has been "Red Flagged" a couple of times over this past two weeks. Its only going to get worse I think unless the summer rains happen.

    Vienna FD just loaded the trash pump to the utility truck a few days ago, in preparation for the season.
    If you don't do it RIGHT today, when will you have time to do it over? (Hall of Fame basketball player/coach John Wooden)

    "I may be slow, but my work is poor." Chief Dave Balding, MVFD

    "Its not Rocket Science. Just use a LITTLE imagination." (Me)

    Get it up. Get it on. Get it done!

    impossible solved cotidie. miracles postulo viginti - quattuor hora animadverto

    IACOJ member: Cheers, Play safe y'all.

  11. #11
    Forum Member PattyV's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    1,272

    Default

    After 5 years we finally had our Great Summer Rains. (yes the capitals are there for a reason) Our dam is full and the bush is actually green!
    Though down south they are still having a bit of a hard time in places.
    I wish you guys luck with your fire seasons. We had the shortest ever fire season this year after thinking we would have the worst/longest fire season ever. It would seem that you guys have recieved our share of it.
    "There are only two things that i know are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. And im not so sure about the former."

    For all the life of me, i cant see a firefighter going to hell. At least not for very long. We would end up putting out all the fires and annoying the devil too much.

  12. #12
    MembersZone Subscriber SteveDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    London, England
    Posts
    1,254

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Lieut325
    Hello SteveDude, or I should say Chief,
    Thank you for the reply. I kind of figured the man we are talking about is not what you guys are about. So where he is now is much busier. 6,400 runs per year. EMS 11,800. Below is a link to a web page. I'm sure you will find it a interesting read. Poplar web page is pretty cool. Nice photos. Looks like you guys do some work!

    Thank you again and stay safe!

    http://www.nbfire.us/

    Bruv, I am not Chief on these forums...I'm just a regular Jake like everyone else.

    The job of a Borough Commander has little to do with fires attended in that locality. There are three Stations within that Borough and between them they make about 5,500 calls. Obviosuly there are single Stations in the capital that make much more than this so that should give you a good idea.

    Howver, like I said, the way we mobilise Chiefs over here is much different. The nearerst Chief goes...irrespective of where he is based. Clearly during the day if the BC is in the Borough and a job goes to what you would deem a second alarm, he would go...but of a night, that BC may be elsewhere and somepone else could attend.

    As stated, I know nothing about your Chief...for all I know he could have been a Fireman/Company Officer at any one of London's busiest or quietest Stations...this will not reflect on how he run the Borough, 99% of his job there was political and managerial and all about reducing calls through community safety.

    Here is a link to the Borough Profile for LB Wandsworth
    Steve Dude
    IACOJ member
    www.fireservice.co.uk

    London Fire Brigade...."Can Do"


    'Irony'... It's a British thing.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Town Votes Not To Support Family Of Lodd Firefigher
    By DaSharkie in forum Firefighters Forum
    Replies: 150
    Last Post: 01-24-2006, 07:19 PM
  2. Value of a 4 year degree
    By rickdane in forum Hiring & Employment Discussion
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 10-29-2004, 11:03 AM
  3. More School Safety Issues
    By captstanm1 in forum Florida
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 08-16-2003, 03:54 PM
  4. Broward County Paramedic of the Year
    By captstanm1 in forum Florida
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 06-21-2003, 11:20 AM
  5. What year was the first US Fire Dept.?
    By BC 307 in forum Firefighters Forum
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 12-16-2001, 10:59 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts