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    Question I'm going in the Navy and...

    have some questions...

    Recruiter told me I had eight pounds to lose. Ugh. Well... eight is better than 20 or 30... What is the best way to lose the extra pounds?

    Also... how big of a pain in the *** is boot camp.

    Also... has anyone here ever been a trained Navy firefighter, and if so, what all is involved. I want to know as much as I can before I cut my hair and ship off to God-knows-where...

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    Navy boot camp tough? It's only 8 weeks long, how hard can that be? When I was in boot in MCRD San Diego we saw the Navy boots sitting in bleachers smoking stogies while we were running the confidence course for the 5th time in a day, it didn't look like they were having a rough time to me. I BRIEFLY thought about joining the Navy right before I enlisted in the Corp but I knew that I could not bring myself to wear bell-bottoms.

    P.S. Get used to all of the inter-service rivalry, you'll hear allot of it.

    In all seriousness though, the Navy FireFighters I knew were awesome but I can't tell you much about their training. Best of luck to you!

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    Basic training is just that-basic.Forget all the war movies where the hard as nails DI beats the crap out of the men for talking and gives them cute names to answer to while in his domain.That's the Corps and the Navy lets you use your real name. Besides,nowadays if you do more than speak harshly to a recruit,you get into trouble bigtime.
    You will have to adjust to getting up earlier than you may have in the past,learning by rote how to fold clothes,make your bunk and don your clothes the Navy way.As HTC Strickland and SH1 Peavey told us,this is to teach us to pay attention to detail as cheaply as possible.It's too expensive to build a ship simulator or send you to the fleet where you can sink a ship by not paying attention to what you are doing. If you have firefighting experience,you know how wise that advice is already.
    Another thing is to not correct the recruit petty officers no matter how wrong they get it.Even in Basic,that's insubordination and they love exercising the authority given by the CCs(company commanders,AKA Red Ropes).
    Just pay attention,keep up in PT and remember Basic ain't the Fleet yet.If you have an A school lined up,when someone says"You will see this material again",take copious notes.They are covering something on the test.
    As to the weight,how long do you have to lose the pounds?If you start now,losing 8 pounds while exercising three times a week won't be a strain on you.

    Don't stress too much.Expect that they'll change your habits and make every effort to succeed in what you are assigned to do.
    I might not want to serve with some of the same folks again but I'd go back if I could today.You get the chance to see a lot of different scenery and get paid for it.Not many jobs let you do that.
    Good luck with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doughesson
    Besides,nowadays if you do more than speak harshly to a recruit,you get into trouble bigtime.
    I'm going to jump slightly off topic for a sec because this brought back a memory.

    Back when I was in boot Drill Instructors were allowed to do pretty anything except physically leave a bruise. Well one day we had a visit from a group of concerned parents who thought Drill Instructors were too rough on recruits. So all day long these parents followed us around, and the Drill Instructors had to lower their aggression. Well we smiled all day and generaly acted like a bunch of turds, but then the parents left. The smile the Drill Instructors had on their faces when the parents left scares me to this day. I remember hearing something like "YOUR going to run until I get tired" followed by hours of chaotic bending. Someone told me that today you get to carry some card around with you and if the Drill Instructors are being to tough, you pull the card out and they have to stop? I really hope that is not true. If we would have pulled some card out of our pockets in boot the Drill Instructor would have bitten our arm off then made us do pull-ups with the stump.

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    If I was the D.I. I would be pretty ****ed off too if some parents were following me around. This is the U.S. military not daycare, the D.I.s know what they are doing.

    My wife works with college kids at a very large university, the stories she tells me about parents you wouldn't believe. They have a term in her profession calling these parents "helicopters", because they are always involved in their children's affairs. I have a better term, it's Latin, "Uncutus Umbilicus".

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    Run, stop eating crap for food, run, eat vegetables, swim, and stop eating crap for food. Oh yeah, stop playing X-Box or whatever.

    As for the "stress card" comment, that is an urban legend that just won't die. Check it out on Snopes.com. Although Ft. Sill has ticked off a lot of people by lowering PT standards, reducing running requirements, not yelling at privates, and a bunch of other rediculous things to not "stress out" recruits last year. Pretty freaking pathetic.

    Moms of America weaken training and continue to **** and moan about their baby getting slapped for smart mouthing back to someone teaching them information to save their lives in FRIGGING COMBAT!!!!!

    Let their kids become adults. Nothing that happens in recruit training at MCRD or at Parris Island (my alma matta) doesn't happen across the country at a fraternity indoctrination.

    Besides, my Drill Instructors made my platoon mates and me cry in pain without ever even touching us. We went Island hopping, held bolts open with 2 fingers for 20 minutes in the blazing sun, and the platoon below us did the manual of arms with loaded foot lockers.

    Remember this, everything - and I do mean EVERYTHING - that is taught to you in recruit training has a reason and a purpose.

    Oh yeah, from a Jarhead to a future squiid......Thanks for the ride.

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    Thought there was only one DoD school for fighterfighters.
    I am a highly trained professional and can find my :: expletive deleted:: with either hand in various light conditions.

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    Much like in the Marine Corps, where everyone is a rifleman first, in the Navy, everyone is a firefighter. (and remember- Fireman is a guy who watches boilers.) In Boot Camp, everyone receives basic firefighter training. However, there are specialists called Damage Controlmen.

    DC is exactly that- controlling damage. Fighting fires, stopping leaks & dewatering flooded spaces......Temporarily repairing/shoring up bulkheads comprimised from battle damage....Restoring comms & power through damaged spaces...

    Much like firefighters on shore stations, DCmen also take care of the shipboard fire systems- test & maintain hoselines, extinguishers, alarm systems, suppression systems, & train train train. You also drill the other rates in their annual fire training.

    Dunno where DC School is anymore- I can tell you where it's not (anymore)- the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard deactivated DC school there about 10 years ago. I heard the buttercup went to Norfolk.......It is a simulator of engine spaces that they flood with water while you are down inside it, trying to stop the leaks.
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    I loved the Navy. They taught me how to be a Hospital Corpsman and they created the Marine Corps. Best thing I ever did.

    Just remember, "the more you sweat in training the less you bleed in combat." Dick Marcinko.

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    Keep your stuff locked up. Really secure!

    Work the best you can with everyone, but be very careful whom you
    trust.

    Great opportunity to increase your vocabulary.

    You might get to visit some new and interesting places.

    Too bad Subic is closed.

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    You'll notice you're body naturally depleats its sachirride storages so stop drinking soda and any type of high sugar drinks. Anything other than water is you just wanting some flavour. Drink some gatorade or something if you need to, but stay away from soda. I'd bet in a few weeks your down 5lbs on that alone. Its pretty amazing.

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    Conster.. What type of firefighting are you wanting to do? There's shipboard firefighting and there's Aircraft firefighting. I was a Aircraft FF in the Navy working aboard carriers. 100% of the people are trained as shipboard FF's (just the basics) but if you pick a specific job as a FF (DC, or ABH) then you will get more advanced training after boot. Don't worry about Boot, piece of cake. Hardest part was just staying awake during all the classroom garbage. You'll have a good time once you get out in the fleet travelling the world!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyromike66
    I would have joined the Marines, but my head wouldn't fit in the jar...I guess having a brain has its disadvantages
    Yeah, you would rather have those snazzy bellbottoms.

    Remember, the Marines are part of the Navy, the Men's Department.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyromike66
    I would have joined the Marines, but my head wouldn't fit in the jar...I guess having a brain has its disadvantages
    Yeah, you would rather have those snazzy bellbottoms.

    Remember, the Marines are part of the Navy, the Men's Department.

    And of course let us not forget that the Navy does not trust its own people to mold young officers. That is why it has Marine Drill Instructors do it. One must get quality ya know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSharkie
    Yeah, you would rather have those snazzy bellbottoms.

    Remember, the Marines are part of the Navy, the Men's Department.

    And of course let us not forget that the Navy does not trust its own people to mold young officers. That is why it has Marine Drill Instructors do it. One must get quality ya know.
    Spoken like a true Marine (that's pronounced CARGO)!

    But anyway the only thing you really need to know is that there are only two kinds of ships............Submarines and Targets!

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    Hold up,

    Conster, aren't you the same on that was declared mentally ill, an unfit mother, and locked into a legal battle with a judge who "needs to mind his own business" ?

    Glad to have you serving in our nations military.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDNY101TRUCK
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    Yeah and? I have been and always will be a misguided child.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FFConster
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    Quote Originally Posted by Res343cue
    Hold up,

    Conster, aren't you the same on that was declared mentally ill, an unfit mother, and locked into a legal battle with a judge who "needs to mind his own business" ?

    Glad to have you serving in our nations military.
    Oh, come on; I'm sure a thorough background check was done.
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    Hey, someone has to get the real soldiers to where the action is. We can't have sailors getting into combat; it would mess up all those purty white uniforms that they wear.

    I always thought that USMC stood for

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    First, thanks for joining!

    Here is all you need to know to survive boot camp

    * Don't take anything to boot camp but your wallet, and a coat if its winter. They will give you everything you need, and lock up everything else. (You will be lucky to get your coat back if its a nice one)

    * Wear a good pair of broken in plain sneakers to Boot. When I was in, if you had plain white sneakers, they let you keep them and use them for PT instead of the issue crappy ones.

    * Learn your "General Orders of a Sentry". Have your Recruiter give you a copy so you know them before you get to boot. You will be asked to recite them all the time. If you screw up, you will do Pushups. Here is the first one from back in 1980 from memory mind you:

    Sir, the First general order of a Sentry is: To walk my post in a Military manner, keeping always on the alert, and observing everything that takes place within my sight or hearing", SIR!

    * STFU and LISTEN! Much of the info they give you seems like its stupid (like a class learning to talk on a sound powered phone. I mean, how hard is it to talk on a phone?) BUT the information they give you is important, OR THEY WOULD NOT WASTE TIME WITH IT!

    * Just like the Fire department, TEAMWORK IS EVERTHING! You will have to work and live with people who are different and even people you don't like. You will have their life in your hands, and they will have yours.

    * Realize that the "stress" they are causing and the "yelling" they are doing is to see if you can handle and work under stressful conditions. ITS A HEAD GAME! Deal with it and smile (but only smile when they are not looking!)

    If you are a certified FF, let them know it at Boot camp. There is a week called SERVICE WEEK where each Boot Class has to do the maintenance, kitchen duties, etc for the base. If you are a FF, you can get assigned to the FireFighting unit and work there for a week. I don't know about you, but cleaning fire hose is still better than peeling potatoes!

    * Enjoy your time in the service. Few other jobs will give you the responsibility and oportunities that the Military allows.

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