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    Go with the extra wheels

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoughRider
    Go with the extra wheels

    'dats sweet! Too bad id did not come in RED!
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    If its going to climb hills, you're going to want to keep ground clearance in mind. The gator is good for flat even surfaces. If you want something that can go just about anywhere you want, go with the Bobcat or the Kubota. We are in the process of getting the Kubota for our department and we can't wait to get it!

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    Hmmmm........... A Snow Blade so you can plow thru the drifts to reach the Brush Fires..... Seriously, Nice Job, Bro. Looks like a capable machine. We were out training a couple of more drivers the other day and I put ours over a course where a jeep could not match the path I took.

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    Default Gator HPX 4x4

    We bought a gator HPX 4x4. We opt'ed out of the 4x6 due to poor turning and difficult to handle going over a berm (front end goes airborn until it get over the hump). We went with the gas burner because it tends to be a infrequently used piece and diesel fuel goes bad. Diesels are more costly and add more weight. We have the Medbed for hauling athletes off the playing fields and a fire Camen which is a 70 gallon skid unit with 50' reel and motor pump. We rhino coated the bed, spec'ed off road tires, brush guard, and a winch package. We love it. It has been in some difficult terrain and performed flawlessly. The cops clocked us at 20 mph, but we don't travel at that speed on the fire ground, so speed was not a big issue with us. John Deere has a state bid program on the machine. Rollover is always a concern, but we have flat terrain for the most part. you just need to have your personnel drive with common sense.

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    because the Cub Cadet Big Country and JD Gator have a lower center of gravity, I would think it would take a lot to roll one. Although they do have lower ground clearance, they are both very capable machines.
    I have had experience with both the big country and the polaris ranger. They both have good and bad points. The big counrty has a 13.4 cu.ft.bed which is much bigger than many of the other competitors. ground clearance is 7.75 inches under the axles. The 6x6 ranger has a 7.2 in clearance
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    Just remember the increase in turning radius that is going to come with the 6x6. Nothing like being in the woods and not being able to make a turn.
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    [QUOTE=hwoods] We were out training a couple of more drivers the other day and I put ours over a course where a jeep could not match the path I took.

    must not have been with our dept. then! we used to run a willy's jeep as a brush truck, till they took it out of service b/c none of the other member's liked it b/c it was an old truck, but let me tell you we used to put that truck in places you wouldn't think anything would go, we would even knock over small trees with it, now let me see a gator do that, plus in the several years that they used it ( and i ain't talking about only 10 yrs.) it was only ever stuk once, and that's because the neighboring dept had a brush fire and they said that was where they wanted us to go was right down through a swamp, but other than that, I would never go with a gator, those things are such junk.

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    Just remember the increase in turning radius that is going to come with the 6x6. Nothing like being in the woods and not being able to make a turn.

    That's why Stihl invented the chainsaw

    In the woods around here, I'd be hard pressed to find a place a 6x6 wouldn't be easily used...that a full-size pickup chassis or humvee wouldn't even be considered without using saws.
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    A Willys Jeep-now that must have been quite the brush vehicle. We ran 2 military surplus Dodge Power Wagons, 1950's vintage, from the early 80's to the mid 90's as brush trucks. These were tough vehicles. I knocked over many small treees and made "roads" where none existed before we arrived. We used to snap rear axles pretty often and even carried an axle change out kit in the trucks.
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    trust me it was a heck of a brush truck, a 50 gallon plastic tank, and a little electric motor which would run 2 hoses, one short one that the driver could use ( which would come in handy during daytime hrs. if you was short handed) and a 50' section of garden hose with just a regular garden nozzle on the end, boy did that thing work wonders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmatian190
    Just remember the increase in turning radius that is going to come with the 6x6. Nothing like being in the woods and not being able to make a turn.

    That's why Stihl invented the chainsaw

    In the woods around here, I'd be hard pressed to find a place a 6x6 wouldn't be easily used...that a full-size pickup chassis or humvee wouldn't even be considered without using saws.
    Then you still got that stump to deal with. My neighbor has a Gator and it is severly underpowered, to the point where I feel like I could outrun it sometimes with a brisk walk. Check out the new Yamaha Rhino, may or may not be what your looking for.
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    Then you still got that stump to deal with.

    Cut it low.

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    The "Real" Willys Jeeps were something else. Go anywhere, do anything. But the "modern" version ain't too swift these days. Dal-Good point (no pun intended) on the stumps. We cut anything and everything right at ground level. Not just for vehicle clearance, but for people on foot as well. Tripping hazards are a cause of a fair number of Wildland Firefighting Injuries each year, so we try to reduce that hazard when possible. Last Thing: Yes, I run a 'Dozer for the Md Forest Service, but we have areas where I am not able to use it, even on a major Fire. We have some extremely sensitive environmental areas, part of our State's preserved green spaces, where we must leave no trace of our work when the job is done. The gator has a light footprint that is easily restored when you are "Cleaning up" after the Fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmatian190
    Then you still got that stump to deal with.

    Cut it low.

    Like I said, you still have that stump to deal with. Do you really think that that underpowered gator is going to want to power itself up and over even the low cut stump or obstruction in the path with all the weight of the driver, passenger, and the tank/pump in the back? I didn't either.
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    Keepback, you must have radically different forests from the ones I'm used to in New England, or the ones I saw in California.

    Either the trees are small and numerous enough to cause a problem...and the small ones are easy to quickly fell and then cut again at ground level.

    Or they're big which would consume time felling then cutting low...but the big ones are spread out so you wouldn't have a problem going around them.

    I really just can't see manueverability between trees being a big factor between 4x4 and 6x6 ATVs.

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    Ok, getting back to a bit bigger...

    Saw one of these in the yard of a forestry equipment company in the Berkshires today:

    http://www.goldoni.com/eng/trans-sincro-rs.htm

    Articulated, 4wd, 3,000# payload

    I think Rosscommon could have fun with it...should be able to easily do 200 gallons of water + all the equipment...and bed is plenty big enough for rescue work.

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    Speaking of articulated - check out the WASP: http://www.diamondgconcepts.com/

    There are also videos on their site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmatian190
    Ok, getting back to a bit bigger...

    Saw one of these in the yard of a forestry equipment company in the Berkshires today:

    http://www.goldoni.com/eng/trans-sincro-rs.htm

    Articulated, 4wd, 3,000# payload

    I think Rosscommon could have fun with it...should be able to easily do 200 gallons of water + all the equipment...and bed is plenty big enough for rescue work.
    Ok Dal, you were in my neck o' da woods and you didn't stop and say hi?

    Where abouts did you find that gem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmatian190
    Keepback, you must have radically different forests from the ones I'm used to in New England, or the ones I saw in California.

    Either the trees are small and numerous enough to cause a problem...and the small ones are easy to quickly fell and then cut again at ground level.

    Or they're big which would consume time felling then cutting low...but the big ones are spread out so you wouldn't have a problem going around them.

    I really just can't see manueverability between trees being a big factor between 4x4 and 6x6 ATVs.

    My side of the country has thick forests with medium size trees close together for the most part.
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