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    Unsure of the cost. Normal NREMT Fees, and state testing fees applied to us, and that was it. We held it in house, purchased the books with our groups training funds, and the course was instructed inhouse also.

    The cost was very small, because we were so lucky to have those options available to us. In the end, all we paid was for the books, testing fees, and some snacks each time we were in class for during the break. The guys donated their time to us to see us get some training that would be helpful in our futures.
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    did not know that found more info so nevermind on that
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    I have-MRT(Ct's version of first responder),Cold Water Rescue Operations working towards some more soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFDexplorer2
    Really? Our EMS captian told me otherwise... I'll have to ask the Chief....
    Thanks.

    Being from NH and also being an EMT I can assure you that the National Registry, nor the State of NH Bureau of EMS is issuing certifications or licenses of any kind to 16 year olds. As a certified frist responder you are practicing emergency medicine, albeit at its most basic level. Being the fact that you are 16 you could not be held liable if any mistakes were made. Your department may in fact call you a "first reponder apprentice" or something like that, but you do not have a license number from the State, nor are you certified as any sort of apprentice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfdffemt17
    Being from NH and also being an EMT I can assure you that the National Registry, nor the State of NH Bureau of EMS is issuing certifications or licenses of any kind to 16 year olds. As a certified frist responder you are practicing emergency medicine, albeit at its most basic level. Being the fact that you are 16 you could not be held liable if any mistakes were made. Your department may in fact call you a "first reponder apprentice" or something like that, but you do not have a license number from the State, nor are you certified as any sort of apprentice.
    I will have to respectfully disagree with you. After just getting off the phone with NH Office of EMS, they will accept NREMT First Responder because NH is a NRENT state. One of the criteria for First Responder, is to be "atleast" age 16.

    I'll show you my cards, and a copy of my license if you'd like to see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sfdffemt17
    Being from NH and also being an EMT I can assure you that the National Registry, nor the State of NH Bureau of EMS is issuing certifications or licenses of any kind to 16 year olds. As a certified frist responder you are practicing emergency medicine, albeit at its most basic level. Being the fact that you are 16 you could not be held liable if any mistakes were made. Your department may in fact call you a "first reponder apprentice" or something like that, but you do not have a license number from the State, nor are you certified as any sort of apprentice.
    yes you are correct that the national registry wont take anyone under 18, however he most likely can get a state cert. maybe NH is different, but im 17 years old and live in NJ and i hold an EMT-B certification...
    NJ FFII/EMT-B

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    Most states have their own first responder level certs. For instance Vermont had the ECA or emergency care giver certification. It was slightly above the national registry first responder and allowed Vermont first responders to use oxygen and I believe assist in backboarding. In fact unless you are a "National Registry" state chances are all of the certifications are somewhat unique to the states. Some states have EMT-D or EMT-B plus AED, etc... I know in Vermont you can have a first responder cert and the ECA cert(if it still exists) before the age of 18. I am not sure about New Hampshire but I know I took the first responder class with a bunch of Charlestown, NH firefighters. This was about 4 + years ago and I have been an EMT-Basic for almost 2 years now so I am not 100% with current rules/laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaytallica45
    yes you are correct that the national registry wont take anyone under 18, however he most likely can get a state cert. maybe NH is different, but im 17 years old and live in NJ and i hold an EMT-B certification...
    The National Registry does take people under the age of 18. I've made the offer of showing my drivers license as well as certification cards as proof.

    Most states have their own first responder level certs. For instance Vermont had the ECA or emergency care giver certification. It was slightly above the national registry first responder and allowed Vermont first responders to use oxygen and I believe assist in backboarding. In fact unless you are a "National Registry" state chances are all of the certifications are somewhat unique to the states. Some states have EMT-D or EMT-B plus AED, etc... I know in Vermont you can have a first responder cert and the ECA cert(if it still exists) before the age of 18. I am not sure about New Hampshire but I know I took the first responder class with a bunch of Charlestown, NH firefighters. This was about 4 + years ago and I have been an EMT-Basic for almost 2 years now so I am not 100% with current rules/laws.
    Vermont's ECA does exist, but it's on par with the National Registry certification now, and that includes the age rule of sixteen years of age. I took the class at fifteen, and once I turned sixteen I was able to run as a First Responder.

    Vermont still allows you to do the extra modules between ECA and EMT-B, which would give you the ability for oxygen, backboarding, etc.
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    Default Vermont's ECA Guidelines

    6.31 To be eligible for the first time for certification as an Emergency Care Attendant, a person must:

    a. Be at least 16 years old.

    b. Be sponsored by a licensed ambulance or first responder service.

    c. Hold a valid course completion certificate issued within the past 2 years for completion of a Department approved course based on the National Standard First Responder curriculum.

    6.32 Emergency Care Attendant Recertification: To be eligible for recertification as an ECA, a person must:

    a. Complete a Department-approved ECA refresher program as detailed on the Department's ECA recertification documentation form.

    b. Continue involvement with the delivery of emergency medical treatment as described in Section 6.31b.

    c. Successfully complete a Department-approved ECA written examination and skill verification within the past year.

    d. Apply on forms available from the Department to receive the new certification.

    6.33 Scope of duties. A person certified as an ECA may render emergency medical treatment under medical control in accordance with the training associated with this certification level. ECAs who successfully complete training approved by the Department in the use of an AED may also use this device for treatment of cardiac arrest patients.

    6.34 Terms of certification: ECA certification is issued for a period of up to two years and is timed to expire on the same date as the person's training certificate (per Sec. 6.31c).

    6.35 All ECAs who were originally certified prior to March 2000, shall transition to the 1999 First Responder curriculum within their current or next ECA certification period in accordance with the following principles:

    a. The Department shall make available training materials to assist squad training officers in preparing ECAs for the transition. No formal transition course is required.

    b. ECAs shall take the National Registry First Responder examination and the accompanying Department approved practical examination at the time they are transitioning.

    c. ECAs who completed training in the use of an AED from the American Heart Association, the American Red Cross, or other program approved by the Department, within the year preceding their transition shall be given credit for ECA to EMT training module one and be authorized to use this device after satisfactorily completing the Department's module one examination.

    d. ECAs who successfully complete the transition process shall also be given credit for ECA to EMT training modules 2-4.

    e. ECAs who are transitioning will be given the scope of practice associated with the ECA to EMT modules 2-4 upon successful completion of National Registry First Responder testing and the applicable module testing.
    Vermont's ECA, is the NREMT First Responder. They use the same requirements as the NREMT.
    Quote Originally Posted by ThNozzleMan
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    This is interesting, I have looked at the NH Department of EMS web site, and apparently they do allow for an "apprentice" position. However, I have researched the NREMT website, and they will not allow you to be come certified in anything until you are 18. However the State of NH will allow you to be an apprentice if you meet the below guidelines. I am sorry for my original post with the misinformation.

    Saf-C 5901.06 "Apprentice" means a person who possesses a current certificate of training in CPR as defined in Saf-C 5901.31, and basic first aid, but who has not attained the legal age for licensure as a provider in accordance with RSA 153-A:11, III.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfdffemt17
    However, I have researched the NREMT website, and they will not allow you to be come certified in anything until you are 18.

    National Registry #: F4042##4
    Registrant Name: _______, Christopher ______.
    Registration Status: Registered
    Status Description: Currently registered with the NREMT.
    Expiration Date: 9/30/2007
    Reregistration Status: N/A
    Status Description: Reregistration is due by your expiration date.

    A few minor details changed (2 digits of registry # removed, last name and middle name also) to protect my identity. Born 11 08 1988, for the record.
    Quote Originally Posted by ThNozzleMan
    Why? Because we are firemen. We are decent human beings. We would be compelled by the overwhelming impulse to save an innocent child from a tragic, painful death because in the end, we are MEN.

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    Yeah it seems that each state does have it's own little tweaks to the EMS system. Here in NY, the levels are CFR (Certified First Responder), EMT-D (which is basic), EMT-I (intermediate, where you can do a few things that basics cant), EMT-CC (stands for critical care, where you can basically do anything a paramedic can, except you have to call med control to obtain permission to push virtually any drugs), and then EMT-P, which is your paramedic. Seems kinda confusing, eh?

    Also, you have to be 18 to hold any of these certs in NYS except CFR, which you have to be 16 to hold.
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    While I'm here I might as well add my certs and classes to the pile:

    Firefighter I
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    Accident Victim Extrication
    Rescue Tech - Basic (introductory/low angle rope rescue)
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    and I'll be taking Fire Police this weekend. I try and stay busy
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    As long as you guys are getting certs I dont know if you are aware or not but if you want to impress your departments you can get certifications through FEMA's online classroom. Our department did an IS-700 class but in reality there is no need for it because you can get it online. All of the members of my search and rescue team are simply taking it online. Obviously your department may want you to have some sort of in house course but heres the link in case: http://training.fema.gov/EMIWeb/ . Its really easy and can be completed in a couple of hours.
    My Certs:
    FFI
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    HAZMAT Awareness/Operations/Decon
    Advanced Vehicle Rescue
    Leadership I (NFA)
    Basic Pumps
    Flashover Survival
    CAMEO/ALOHA/MARPLOT
    IS-700
    Amatuer Radio-Tech
    VT Part-time Law Enforcement
    (there is a ton more I can't remember)
    Certifications are only as valuable as the person certified. If you dont keep up your training with them you may as well toss them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfdffemt17
    Being from NH and also being an EMT I can assure you that the National Registry, nor the State of NH Bureau of EMS is issuing certifications or licenses of any kind to 16 year olds. As a certified frist responder you are practicing emergency medicine, albeit at its most basic level. Being the fact that you are 16 you could not be held liable if any mistakes were made. Your department may in fact call you a "first reponder apprentice" or something like that, but you do not have a license number from the State, nor are you certified as any sort of apprentice.
    Must Disagree For the state of North Dakota i was able to be come a NR-First responder at age 15. I am Now a NDEMT-B, which inculdes, AHA AED, and CPR. As a First responder what are you guys alowed to do?

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    AHA BLS for Healthcare Providers
    AHA First Aid
    ARC Adult/Child/Infant CPR
    ARC First Aid
    FEMA IS-00100
    FEMA IS-00700
    FEMA IS-00800

    Soon to take EMT-B

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    First responder
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    and on the 9th Im taking my 160. I took the class twice but Im fianally able to take the test because they took out the live burn down here and replaced it with a summary hands on class.

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    Fire Fighter 1
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    Advanced Structural Fire Fighting
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    And A few medical classes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaytallica45
    yes you are correct that the national registry wont take anyone under 18, however he most likely can get a state cert. maybe NH is different, but im 17 years old and live in NJ and i hold an EMT-B certification...
    yes they will i took the national registry first responder class and test a month ago and i am only 17

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    let me refraze that i took the test a month ago but the actual class was like 2 1/2 months long

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