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    I was at out firehouse today and we had recieved an E-Mail from an E-One dealer. ABC's Extreme Make over: Home edition: After the storm. Apparently they did a special on a fire department whos station got leveled. E-One also donated a fire truck to the fire department. I will get an airing date and more information.

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    it will be aired friday, april 14th, 8-7 central. it takes place in sabine pass, texas. It is a Port Aurthur firehouse that was rebuilt, along with a school auditorium. the station is really nice. and the fountain they built in the back yard is pretty cool as well.

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    I hate that show. I see it as nothing more than exploiting peoples hardships for profit. Appeal to Americas sensitive side and get them to watch and the money comes pouring in. It's feel good tv, and ABC and Sears are making a killing off it. Anybody with ANY brains at all can see right through that show.

    Sorry for the negative post.

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    I happen to like the show and will watch!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plattsfire2
    I hate that show. I see it as nothing more than exploiting peoples hardships for profit. Appeal to Americas sensitive side and get them to watch and the money comes pouring in. It's feel good tv, and ABC and Sears are making a killing off it. Anybody with ANY brains at all can see right through that show.

    Sorry for the negative post.
    So? A family that's down and out gets a whole boatload of free stuff out of it, the station gets good ratings, sears gets advertising... nobody is being hurt so what's the harm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firetacoma1
    So? A family that's down and out gets a whole boatload of free stuff out of it, the station gets good ratings, sears gets advertising... nobody is being hurt so what's the harm?
    Not necessarily. There seems to be a problem with all these low income households now having to pay property tax and much larger utility bills on their new estates. For what it's worth.

    Don't get me wrong, I like seeing people who are enduring hard times get a boost - who doesn't? What I don't like is the fact that ABC and Sears and whoever else are making huge profits off of other peoples misfortunes. To donate under anonymity is one thing, but to gloat and make money off of your self promotion is another.
    The money spent on remodeling these homes is nothing more than pocket lint compared to the huge $$$ brought in by the ratings every Sunday. There is no honor in any of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plattsfire2
    Not necessarily. There seems to be a problem with all these low income households now having to pay property tax and much larger utility bills on their new estates. For what it's worth.

    Don't get me wrong, I like seeing people who are enduring hard times get a boost - who doesn't? What I don't like is the fact that ABC and Sears and whoever else are making huge profits off of other peoples misfortunes. To donate under anonymity is one thing, but to gloat and make money off of your self promotion is another.
    The money spent on remodeling these homes is nothing more than pocket lint compared to the huge $$$ brought in by the ratings every Sunday. There is no honor in any of that.
    How would you prefer they advertise? Perhaps in some way other than by donating a bunch of "free stuff" to a family (or a community, in the case of the upcoming episode)) in need?
    I see no problem with it and I enjoy watching the show...I see enough people down and out when I'm at work. It's a nice change to see someone in need get a mortgage free dream home, even if the motives of the sponsors is to advertise their business.
    There's plenty of trash on TV these days. I'm glad to see decent programming like this show get such high ratings...Maybe there's hope yet!




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    now the show i think is good. some volunteers from our dept drove the 100 miles to go assist in re-building and just helping brothers in need. we had a blast, we all met ty, preston, paul, and i cant remember the other guys name. we hung out, talked about fishing, and some of their other projects. really good people.

    wehther its on tv or not, they do the right thing by helping folks in need. even if they make a profit from it. help was needed, and help was given.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plattsfire2
    Not necessarily. There seems to be a problem with all these low income households now having to pay property tax and much larger utility bills on their new estates. For what it's worth.
    where as before they had to pay a mortgage (or rent) on top of taxes and utilities... it's not like winning the lottery where they can quit their jobs. Now they can live in a nice home (or accessible for a handicap) etc. and in most cases probably reduce their monthly expenses.

    There's nothing wrong with getting recognized for doing a good deed imo.

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    Let me clarify by saying that I have no problem at all with people helping someone in need, obviously, or I wouldn't be a Firefighter and Paramedic. I just have a problem with what I perceive to be their motives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plattsfire2
    Let me clarify by saying that I have no problem at all with people helping someone in need, obviously, or I wouldn't be a Firefighter and Paramedic. I just have a problem with what I perceive to be their motives.
    Why? They make no bones about their motives. It is to advertise their products. But they do it in a fashion that provides people, you and I, with entertainment and at the same time they are helping someone in need.

    If you perceive their motives to be for financial gain through displaying their products, then your perception is accurate. Where is the problem?




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    you have to realize that alot of that profit IS going back into the show. Everything isn't donated and it can become quite expensive to build a house in 7 days. It's not all profit, yes, there is profit, but not as much as people think. Sears and Ty are also doing the "Winds of change" donation program right now. They are advertising to help other people...It's not simply all profit.

    All I know is I will be watching that episode in two days because they do it for people who need it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plattsfire2
    Let me clarify by saying that I have no problem at all with people helping someone in need, obviously, or I wouldn't be a Firefighter and Paramedic. I just have a problem with what I perceive to be their motives.
    If I remember correctly, the last episode, Ty (the megaphone guy) could not be there. He sent a personal check of $10k instead. Yup, he's got some terrible motives.
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    I wish they had shown a ful hour on the firehouse instead of 20 min. The station is awesome though and of course they got the E-ONE because E-ONE rocks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shvfr4
    I wish they had shown a ful hour on the firehouse instead of 20 min. The station is awesome though and of course they got the E-ONE because E-ONE rocks!
    I thought the similar when they did the one at Camp Barnabas near me. We got to burn down the home they made over, but it only showed a couple of minutes of the burn.

    I have to say, they did a damn good job on that one. We met several of the crew, and for the most part they were as down to earth as you and I. Paul actually talked with us about getting burned out of his home when he was a kid. Then to top it all off, we got invited to go to have a beer with them after it was said and done.

    I'm sure ABC, and even the stars of the show make some nice dough, but from what I've seen of what they did down here, I think it's a helluva thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42
    If I remember correctly, the last episode, Ty (the megaphone guy) could not be there. He sent a personal check of $10k instead. Yup, he's got some terrible motives.

    Uh huh. And he sent the check because he truly cared for the family. I have a feeling your all being duped. I just don't buy it.

    But this mainly comes from my general distrust in everything I see on television.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shvfr4
    I wish they had shown a ful hour on the firehouse instead of 20 min. The station is awesome though and of course they got the E-ONE because E-ONE rocks!
    If they really cared about them, they would have donated a PIERCE!!
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    Ya, getting an E-One as a gift is sorta like getting that chessy tie on Father's Day ........ You appreciatte the gesture but ya know what people will think when you finally have to wear it outside.

    Come on kids .. buy your dad a Stuphen this year!!!!!!!
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    the show last night was a disapointment. they didnt show any of the construction, or any of the workers.
    they are getting an e-one, but the truck on the show was a loaner from, i believe, kansas city. their truck is on order. they may have recieved it by now, the show was filmed early may.

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    America is a capitalist country. Everything that businesses do comes down to money. If Sears and ABC couldn't make money from helping those people, they wouldnt't be helping. Also, if they were to donate the thouusands of dollars of materials and whatnot every week, that would begin to eat profits... maybe not enough to make a difference, but more than any smart businessperson is willing to do.
    I look at the show this way: Maybe not everyone out there that needs help s getting it, but I think I would rather at least see SOME people getting help than none at all.

    On a side note, I do see where some of the lower income families would have problems. The cost of taxes would be much greater than in previous homes. Maybe the utilities wouldn't change all that much due to better energy efficiency now, but I would venture to guess that utlilities cost would rise. Also, they still have to pay whatever mortgage they had previously. Just because that old house is in a landfill somewhere, doesn't make the house mortgage go away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plattsfire2
    I don't like is the fact that ABC and Sears and whoever else are making huge profits off of other peoples misfortunes.
    You can blame TIVO for shows like this one, product placement has become the newest and best method to advertise, as those of us with TIVO and other DVR's can watch "live" and skip through the commercials.

    I don't think Sears makes as much as you might think, probably no more than traditional advertising would have made 10 years ago. Balance that against the money they "donate" to have their tools and appliances used in the show, and the various other give-aways they host each show (The Port Arthur showing they gave the entire town $350 each towards shopping at Sears).

    Everything is commercial product placement today. Wife and I watched "A History of Violence" last night and there were several blatant product placements, most notibly the always shiney (despite driving down country roads) brand new black Chryster 300M the bad guys were driving. Why not do a little good with it? About the only place you won't see it is PBS.

    The way I look at it, even if they make a profit off it they are still doing a good thing. Most (not all) of the people who get a new home truely need help. Several times I've seen them buy off the mortgage, even set up trust funds to pay the utilities in the case of truely needy or deserving people.

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    I especially liked the part where they rode on the back bumper of the fire engine!! Couldn't the local fire department have clued them in on the bad press that would cause them?

    Still, I like the story and the show. Keep up the good work ABC and I hope that your programming continues to be directed on the good that people can do, if they try. I now watch ABC more than any other channel. I have even started to think differently about Sears, than I did before!

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    "the show last night was a disapointment. they didnt show any of the construction, or any of the workers. "

    I agree! I thought it was going to be a full hour.

    I sent in an application for the department next to mine to Extreme Make Over: Home Edition a couple of months ago and I'm hoping they'll eventually get around to helping them out, cause they could use it.

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