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    Exclamation How Would You Open This Up?

    Hey fellow truckies.. How Would you open this up?
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    Rpg?????????????

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    Lightbulb Well.............

    Assuming that it is necessary to open it up, and that you have time to look a bit, the closed in window openings might be the easy way. Vertical should be less of a problem than horizontal. Find, and take out, the shaft coverings. It does appear to be a bit of a challenge though. It should be quite apparent to all of you that this is NOT a Fire in my district. Traffic is passing the Rescue Company's rig in the street. That is not an option here, with operating space and crew safety coming before traffic flow.
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    The bigger question is how did the local code allow it to get that way??
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    That building should send up a huge red flag. Ventilation for anything but the top floor is a big problem and at BEST will be severely delayed. Who knows what else has been done to the upper floors during renovation.

    What is the story with this fire? Any windows in the rear?

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    This happened in Reading Pa. reading fire

    ask these guys...
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    From Reading's Web site:

    At 1445, box 31 was dispatched for a reported fire at the Rent-A-Center store in the 400 Blk. of Penn Street. Engines 3, 1, 5, 13 safety, Ladder 1, Tower 1, Rescue 1, Medic 603 and Cars 1, 5 and 7 responded to the call. Units arriving on location gave smoke showing from the front of the building.

    Crews advanced several handlines into the narrow block long store from the front off Penn Street and the rear from Cherry Street. The fire originated in the basement and traveled upward through the floor to the main level. Although the fire was contained relatively quickly, smoke from the blaze traveled throughout the building and escaped into several other businesses setting off numerous fire alarms. About a half dozen fans were used to clear the buildings.

    Met-Ed was called to the scene to cut the underground power to the business, the vault being flooded, firefighters first had to pump the water out before the crew could enter the space. The Fire Marshal responded to investigate. He reported that a number of employees attempted to put the fire out with portable extinguishers prior to the fire department arriving. The Fire Marshal ruled the fire accidental, reportedly investigators are looking at an electrical component as a possible cause. There were no reported injuries, apparatus were on location for more than two and a half hours.


    My first thought was the photo doesn't show the rear (are their windows there), and maybe not a skylight or roof scuttle.

    Reading the actual fire -- basement extended to first floor...the need for horizontal ventilation on the upper floors probably wasn't a major factor in this actual situation (pain in the butt for clearing it out though.) Not to say it couldn't be a bigger factor had the fire been on an upper floor

    But as the area of origin in the basement reminds us, we don't always have situations that allow us to fight fires where it is easy to ventilate.

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    Two words.....stinger missile.



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    Check the rear of the building for windows and vent the roof are probrably some options.

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    In all seriousness, had there been a need for horizontal ventilation at the front of the building, a TIC would probably have revealed "warm spots" where windows had been covered. After that, a K12 might work.

    Or Jet Axe. . .
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    Building just looks like a photoshop job to me.
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    Bones that's what I thought at first too.......but the article and original pics are here.... http://www.readingpafire.com/press/a...?article_id=33
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    Just trying to figure how and why anyone would allow a building front like that.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ullrichk

    Or Jet Axe. . .
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    In the towering inferno they got to use C-4, why not here?!?!


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    Just trying to figure how and why anyone would allow a building front like that.....

    It's Pennsylvania, Bones. Don't hurt yourself trying to figure them out

    My personal guess is a ****ing contest with the local code authorities..."Oh yeah, you want those windows fixed? I'll fix those windows!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFRDxplorer
    In the towering inferno they got to use C-4, why not here?!?!


    JUST KIDDING!
    You took the thought from my mind. I wouldda suggested explosives, lol.

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    I also found this stuff surfing one day:

    http://www.spotfireimages.com/hs16.html

    The wildland version of JetAxe. JetChainSaw? JetBullDozer?

    Anyway, sadly that has also mostly gone on the wayside according to the page. Darn restrictions on explosives

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    I was thinking the same about it being photo shopped I mean it looks so odd but hey its PA. aww man no more explosives damn what a shame...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmatian190
    I also found this stuff surfing one day:

    http://www.spotfireimages.com/hs16.html

    The wildland version of JetAxe. JetChainSaw? JetBullDozer?

    Anyway, sadly that has also mostly gone on the wayside according to the page. Darn restrictions on explosives

    I'm pretty sure the military used equipment similar, not sure if they still do.

    To remove tree limbs or even who damn trees you can wrap det cord several times around the member to be taken down and then detonate and KAPOWIE! no more tree, tree limb, whatever your target of choice is.
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    Hey! Easy on PA! I spent 4 wonderful years there and met my wife (although we are both from NJ). 1986 the wonderful state of PA blessed me with EMT certification.

    Um, the more I try to remember it, your right......It's PA. ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42
    Hey! Easy on PA! ................Um, the more I try to remember it, your right......It's PA. ;-)

    HAHAHAHA

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