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    Default Anyone Have a SOP for Knox KeySecure?

    Our department has recently receved a Knox KeySecure (Pin code release) for our appratus and we are looking to develop a policy for it's use. We are one of the first in our area to get one and we would like to see some other departments policies for some guidence. Any input will be greatly appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ktownff
    Our department has recently receved a Knox KeySecure (Pin code release) for our appratus and we are looking to develop a policy for it's use. We are one of the first in our area to get one and we would like to see some other departments policies for some guidence. Any input will be greatly appreciated.
    We have the last four of our SSN's programmed in to remove the key. We don't have any policy in place, just the same as we used our Knox boxes before.
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    I don't know much about them but here dispatch has to open them over the radio... I guess they then keep track of when it's opened.

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    i don't know much about the system you are using but i would make sure to have an LEO with you. in case the person doesn't like being waken up by you and the crew. just an idea.

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    Ours are also opened over the radio by dispatch, and is logged who requested it, for what location and what time it was replaced.

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    We don't have a policy in place, per se, but the past practice thus far has been this: members have to complete their probationary period before getting a PIN. They pick their own PIN, and it CAN'T be the last four digits of their SSN (too easy to figure out). The unit tracks who released the key, when, and for how long the key was out, so there isn't a whole lot of manual tracking needed. I too, would be interested in reading an SOG or SOP on this. Anybody try TRADENET yet?
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    We're purchasing the PIN release units right off. Our intent is for each officer to have a PIN of their own. The SOP will include notifiying dispatch when removing the key. This will then be logged and correspond with the computer record of the key's release.

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    The Orange County Fire Authority, So Cal, does. Here is their website to get more info-
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    I can give you a copy of our SOG if you want it. Email me and I can reply with it.

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    We have a small combination lock box in each truck. Only the officers know the combination to it. Works great for us.
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    Default SOG For Knox

    Just recently started using an SOG for the Knox system. It explains how the entire process is to work, including the involvement of the dispatch center. I can send it in an email, just write me at poole104@epix.net

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    We have been using the Knox Box system for sometime without incident. We contact dispatch who "tones" out our Knox Box. That way the voice requesting it is recorded at dispatch as well as the unit number and time. Our city even passed an ordinance that all new commercial construction, including renovation, must include a Knox Box in the design and construction. A few of our businesses bulked, but when faced with replacing expensive doors, or locks when we werent able to gain access and the keyholder was too far out, a good bit have complied. A good bit of it is a trust thing between the department and the businesses we serve. One bad apple and things could easily go south. On our banking facilities, we always request law enforcement, its part of our policies. We have found it invaluable for those 2am HELP I've fallen and I can't get up's in our elderly highrises. Its also a real time and manpower saver as we do not have to leave personnel at the scene waiting forever for the keyholder to arrive when there is no sign of a true emergency.
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    Have you contacted Knox. I'm sure they have some examples.

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    Our pin is the last five digits of our ssn. The only people who are authorized to have a pin are company officers. It logs who removes a key and for how long. We have a policy that if we have to use the key for entry, a police officer has to be present to verify that everything is done to ensure that there are not accusations later on....When I get to the station tomorrow I will forward to you the actual SOP we have.

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    On ours we will contact county fire dispatch and let them know we are opening the know box, on oour school it is link throw alarm system and will alert county dispatch, but we contact them when we open the box and when it is secured, so we have it logged.

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    Knox has an Ordinance CD that I believe has some SOPs. Give them a call.

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    We have the knox keysecures. Our policy is that we have pins that are assigned, we notify dispatch that we are removing it (they already know the location) and let them know when it's back secured. Ours can be downloaded monthly so we can compare the usage. It works real well except when one of the fuses blow, it's electronic so it's gona break.

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    To all you knox users, has anyone 'lost' a knox key???

    What is your plan or policy to handle this??

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    Jason ...........can you email me a copy of the KNOX BOX SOG please ?
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    As far as the keypad itself, every member of the dept has been programed into the unit via a personal pin number. The unit itself logs who removes the key and it time stamps itself the date, time, and pin number that did it. Once a month we do an audit of the unit via plugging it in to the comp that you used to set up the program.

    As far as actually using a Knox key to access a building, just have dispatch time stamp when entry is made via Knox box, and also have a PD unit on scene.

    I think you can figure up some sort of SOG/SOP to fit your dept out of the examples given on this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorch View Post
    To all you knox users, has anyone 'lost' a knox key???...
    Now, you really think that anyone's going to admit to this in a PUBLIC FORUM, do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEOgreg View Post
    Now, you really think that anyone's going to admit to this in a PUBLIC FORUM, do you?

    I know a guy that has a cousin that has a friend.......

    Your a daisy if you do.

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