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    Default Name a valve for me.

    Hey guys,

    Really Dumb question, but I'm drawing a blank today, and apparently my salesman can't name this part either.

    What is the proper name of the valve that you place on the steamer port of the hydrant, that allows a second engine to attach later and boost pressure to the first engine without interupting the established supply line.

    It has two inlets, and 2 outlets, and normally looks like a cross. I called it a relay manifold, but I know that's not the correct term.
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    Hydrant valve.

    I was gonna say, "Bill."
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    Default Four-Way Hydrant Valve

    We are in a rural area and only see these in trainings

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    Hydrant valve.
    I'm not talking about a simple gate valve, but the valve with four connections, and the one-way clappers inside.

    Is it just a "hydrant valve"?
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    I believe its called a Humat Valve or 4 Way Hydrant Valve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlcooke3
    I believe its called a Humat Valve or 4 Way Hydrant Valve.
    I think that's the one.

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    AKA a boat anchor.

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    We call them Dividers over here
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    Around here they are known as:

    Hydrant
    Assist
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    Quote Originally Posted by onebugle
    Around here they are known as:

    Hydrant
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    Yup...Same here

    Last edited by RoughRider; 07-25-2006 at 02:19 PM.
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    Humat, thats the one.
    Just another one of the 99%ers looking up.

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    Humat valve We have 2 of them
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    Humats. Have'm? Yep. Use'm? Nope...

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    Thumbs up Well.......................... .............................. .........................

    We have a Mobile Pressure Controlling Manifold with multiple discharge Valves that we Hook up to hydrants. All Supply lines are hooked up to this device, NOT directly to the Hydrant. Works great for us. What??..... Huh??..... Proper name for the Mobile Pressure Cont...........?? Oh, We just call it an Engine Company.


    Seriously, We put an Engine on the Hydrant, EVERY TIME. We do NOT connect hose directly to the Hydrant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods

    Seriously, We put an Engine on the Hydrant, EVERY TIME. We do NOT connect hose directly to the Hydrant.
    How do you spin the Engine onto the hydrant and how many of you does it take? Guess you have a lot of guys nicknamed "Tiny" on the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods
    Seriously, We put an Engine on the Hydrant, EVERY TIME. We do NOT connect hose directly to the Hydrant.

    Well, we wouldn't need to much of the time, as usually stage within 100 feet of the hydrant almost anywhere in our village. Occasionally however, we might only get one engine out the door quickly, with the second 5-10 minutes behind.

    In longer lays off a single source, I was thinking that it might be useful to allow for an MA engine or second due to relay without disturbing our supply line.

    General thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcaldwell
    In longer lays off a single source, I was thinking that it might be useful to allow for an MA engine or second due to relay without disturbing our supply line.

    General thoughts?
    Yes. Go with that thought
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    Thumbs up Yup!......

    Quote Originally Posted by NYSmokey
    Yes. Go with that thought
    Tom is Correct. Just because you have a wait for your next Engine, your need for immediate Water doesn't change. What works for me, (lots of Engines, fairly close together) will not work for everyone. Another County, not far from us, uses the Humat Valve. Quite often, apparatus from our county will respond to that area, (auto aid, and a "Closest Apparatus no matter who" attitude) and find the line laid out, but not charged. They often take the Humat off the line before hooking up.
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    I know a company that uses a Humat valve every time they hit a hydrant. In my 23 years, I can think of only 3 or 4 times that anyone else has actually hooked up to it as a second engine.

    We don't carry one. We did some flow testing with our hydrants and found it was simply not worth it. The added gain was negligible in our situation.
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